Korean apts. look like 'exploding twin towers'.

[El Kabong]

And they are not fucking facts, they are projected estimates. Those are not facts.

Operation Overlord, look it up...hell look at the casualties from Guadalcanal and Okinawa and tell me invading Japan proper would have been easy or cost less lives that the bombs.

Out of 36,200 soldiers on the ground for Japan 31,000 were KIA in Guadalcanal, only 1,000 were captured...at Okinawa a Japanese force of 117,000 men suffered north of 95,000 KIA, only between 7,400-10,755 captured and the mass suicides of the civilians which numbered somewhere between 42,000 and 150,000.


Oh but invading Japan proper (which has never been done) would have been nothing compared to the 2 bombs we dropped....I like to dream too miles, but the guilt you push off on The Allies is unwarranted and undeserved. It was war, we told Japan what we would do, we fucking showed them the tests and they took it....not once, but TWICE before surrender and yet an invasion would have saved lives eh

Dropping the bomb was the greatest crime of the last century. I suppose we could expect nothing more of a nation that bred itself on killing the natives.

Still wrong and no excuses should ever be made for immoral and outrageous acts of wanton bloodshed.

"Hello, my name is miles and I wish I wasn't a white guy"

Ah, yes The United States the ONLY place EVER in the history of the world where people killed off indigenous peoples and had slaves


The fire bombing of Dresden was probably worse than ther 2 nukes, BUT once again we (and by "we" I mean "you and people like you") look at those events through the prism of the present and not as things they way they were at the time. The 20/20 Hindsight View of History is a dangerous one and it's irresponsible it brings about falsities like "The American Civil War was always and only about Slavery" or that "Dropping the bombs on Japan was horrible and it cost more lives".

You ought to know that the US Armed forces produced so many Purple Heart medals in preparation for Operation Downfall that they are still giving out the medals produced then and still have over 200,000 left to give out......oh, but it would have been more "humane" to invade rather than drop bombs.....my bad miles....I guess I'll go do my ritualized self flaggelation for my continued sin of not being an oppressed minority

[VictorCharlie]

Two different times with different ideas of acceptable warfare. WWII was total war. Nation vs Nation not just two nation's militaries. When the amount of bombing (particularly fire bombing) Japan's mainland had already endured w/o surrendering is viewed along with the amount of casualties the Allies had already absorbed in the Pacific and the estimated casualties from a mainland invasion it was the only decision to make. There were no easy decisions in WWII. Either way you went lots of people were going to die. Doubtful we will ever see this kind of bloodshed again but it is also unlikely you will see the kind of fascist evil that was the Japanese Empire and Third Reich. I guess you could throw in Stalin too since no one will ever get close to his body count.

[El Kabong]

There's a long list of things liberal just can't let go, some of which include: The Trail of Tears, Sacco & Vanzetti, The Rosenburgs, Christopher Colombus, The Bombing of Japan, and the fact we were indeed winning in Vietnam.....but I digress


If America folded up tomorrow those liberal bastards would be happy for about 2 seconds before they realized how great they had it......subversive little shits