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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboxingfan View Post
    Just think his speed takes it and i don't know about the wrestling the best can get takendown.
    Not Jones, he has never been taken down in his UFC career so far

    I dont really like using fighter a beat fighter b so will dimolish fighter c, the triangle theory, but Machida KO'ed Rashad, if he can do it then I have no fear Jones will do it. Will have to wait and see, Rashad is the only test left, although saying that Davis will give him a hell of a fight.
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    Davis has a lot of the physical tools that Jones has but doesn't seem to have the all around skill set yet. Hopefully he isn't pushed into a title shot too early (assuming he keeps winning) and can continue to develop.
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    Jones is just a phenom. For a guy who,s more or less professionally doing it for 4-5 years, it's quite amazing. Machinda style seemed the same good old riddle in the first (which I believe Machinda won) but Jones looked good indeed and didn't panick at all though MAchida did land 2-3 solid shots on the chin. A healthy GSP vs Jones is definitely something I'd like to see someday, not sure if it'll ever happen but that's a fight that could be interesting. Assuming GSP can stop to injure himself and if the weight of both won,t be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Jones is just a phenom. For a guy who,s more or less professionally doing it for 4-5 years, it's quite amazing. Machinda style seemed the same good old riddle in the first (which I believe Machinda won) but Jones looked good indeed and didn't panick at all though MAchida did land 2-3 solid shots on the chin. A healthy GSP vs Jones is definitely something I'd like to see someday, not sure if it'll ever happen but that's a fight that could be interesting. Assuming GSP can stop to injure himself and if the weight of both won,t be an issue.
    GSP v Jones will never happen unless GSP bulks up a shit load, moving from Welterweight to LHW would be too much mate. As a fantasy matchup then fair enough. GSP v Silva could be a possibility tho
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    With Diaz, Condit and Johnson (assuming he gets a couple decent wins in the time it takes GSP to fight the Diaz/Condit winner) in WW I think GSP will have at least 2 more title fights at 170 before he would be in a holding pattern waiting on the next contender. I think a Silva vs Jones fight is much more likely. If Jones beat Rashad and possibly Hendo and Silva beats Chael (big if) or Munoz both will be lacking a big time match in their respective weight classes. Silva has talked about retiring before so I wouldn't be surprised if he cleaned out 185 one last time and looked to fight Jones as a last fight to cement his P4P status.
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    Yea John got caught for the first time on a long time during that fight but Machida never had a chance in my eyes.
    The key to defeating this guy is KICKING THOSE GOD DANM TOOTHPICK THIGHS OF HIS!!!

    am I right?
    or take his ass down and sit on him, pound him with elbows like Florian does. Nobody is gonna take this guy out on his feet. I dont think even Chuck in his prime could beat him. He needs to face a divine wrestler
    and Rashad is a perfect match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReBeL BLacK View Post
    Yea John got caught for the first time on a long time during that fight but Machida never had a chance in my eyes.
    The key to defeating this guy is KICKING THOSE GOD DANM TOOTHPICK THIGHS OF HIS!!!

    am I right?
    or take his ass down and sit on him, pound him with elbows like Florian does. Nobody is gonna take this guy out on his feet. I dont think even Chuck in his prime could beat him. He needs to face a divine wrestler
    and Rashad is a perfect match.
    A Prime Chuck would be an interesting opponent. Jones represents an evolution of MMA fighters well past Chuck but Chuck had fantastic TD defense, one punch KO power and the ability to take a punch to land a punch. I think Jones is too versatile to lose to Chuck but I believe the Ice Man would have been able to take Jon much deeper and challenge him much more than anyone he has faced so far.
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    Jones cant stand

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueheart View Post
    Jones cant stand
    Jones carnt stand what? Peanuts ? being lied too ? Dont get what ya trying to say here buddy.

    As for Chuck, yea his TD defence was fantastic, and he had the 1 punch KO power, I would just fear Jones wouldnt let him in close enough to land that big shot, keeping him on the outside with the leg kicks to set up his own attack.

    The division needs to Jones to fight either Rashad or Davis if he beats Evans. Once thats done then we can truly say he is the undisputed LHW champ.

    Hendo may get a mentionn, but im still undecided if he would rather go to MW and look for a rematch with Silva.
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    Default Re: Jones vs Machida

    jones is really a class of his own at the moment although has anyone been on top of him? wonder how he is off his back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harley View Post
    jones is really a class of his own at the moment although has anyone been on top of him? wonder how he is off his back?
    He not been on his back yet in the cage, his wrestling has been far superior to all of his opponents. The only two that would stand a chance is Rashad, and maybe Hendo, but I dont see them keeping him there for long if it did happen.
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    Jones is just a phenom. For a guy who,s more or less professionally doing it for 4-5 years, it's quite amazing. Machinda style seemed the same good old riddle in the first (which I believe Machinda won) but Jones looked good indeed and didn't panick at all though MAchida did land 2-3 solid shots on the chin. A healthy GSP vs Jones is definitely something I'd like to see someday, not sure if it'll ever happen but that's a fight that could be interesting. Assuming GSP can stop to injure himself and if the weight of both won,t be an issue.
    GSP v Jones will never happen unless GSP bulks up a shit load, moving from Welterweight to LHW would be too much mate. As a fantasy matchup then fair enough. GSP v Silva could be a possibility tho
    Gsp talked about moving up at some point but he said that the day he does so, he does it for good as he thinks he doesn't have the physical to get down again. I agree it's unlikely but I wouldn't say impossible. The biggest problem is that he's not a big Welter so issue would be a problem down the stretch power wise.
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    Jones is just a phenom. For a guy who,s more or less professionally doing it for 4-5 years, it's quite amazing. Machinda style seemed the same good old riddle in the first (which I believe Machinda won) but Jones looked good indeed and didn't panick at all though MAchida did land 2-3 solid shots on the chin. A healthy GSP vs Jones is definitely something I'd like to see someday, not sure if it'll ever happen but that's a fight that could be interesting. Assuming GSP can stop to injure himself and if the weight of both won,t be an issue.
    GSP v Jones will never happen unless GSP bulks up a shit load, moving from Welterweight to LHW would be too much mate. As a fantasy matchup then fair enough. GSP v Silva could be a possibility tho
    Gsp talked about moving up at some point but he said that the day he does so, he does it for good as he thinks he doesn't have the physical to get down again. I agree it's unlikely but I wouldn't say impossible. The biggest problem is that he's not a big Welter so issue would be a problem down the stretch power wise.
    Moving up to middleweight I could understand but jumping to lightheavy from welter is some jump. Even a big welterweight would struggle at that. The thing is Jones is a big LHW, he could grow into the HW division. I remember seeing a photo of him stood next to Cain when he was HW champ and he towered over him. I think when Jones clears out the LHW division a move to HW would be his next move.
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    Jones is just a phenom. For a guy who,s more or less professionally doing it for 4-5 years, it's quite amazing. Machinda style seemed the same good old riddle in the first (which I believe Machinda won) but Jones looked good indeed and didn't panick at all though MAchida did land 2-3 solid shots on the chin. A healthy GSP vs Jones is definitely something I'd like to see someday, not sure if it'll ever happen but that's a fight that could be interesting. Assuming GSP can stop to injure himself and if the weight of both won,t be an issue.
    GSP v Jones will never happen unless GSP bulks up a shit load, moving from Welterweight to LHW would be too much mate. As a fantasy matchup then fair enough. GSP v Silva could be a possibility tho
    Gsp talked about moving up at some point but he said that the day he does so, he does it for good as he thinks he doesn't have the physical to get down again. I agree it's unlikely but I wouldn't say impossible. The biggest problem is that he's not a big Welter so issue would be a problem down the stretch power wise.
    GSP is waaaaay too small for Jones. Hell hes too small for Silva. I want to see Silva vs Jones.
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    A weltrweight that i think could make light heavyweight would be Anthony Johnson I hear he walks around over 205.
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