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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    yea cause getting man handled and pushed into the ropes is a sure fire sign of the tide turning, Margarito landed a couple punches with no power and Cotto answered back, still winning the 9th round, that being said chime in Outspoken who obviously is gonna come in with his usual rant

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Margarito fans should just be thankful that the fight was stopped the way it did. This prevented Antonio from getting blind.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Margarito was coming on more but his punches didn't seem effective, lacked power and he would have been blind if the fight wasn't stopped. I didn't want it to be stopped just to see what happens but it was good for margaritos health.
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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Smoger is a very respected ref. His opinion is well valued. It's to bad he didn't get to make the final decision. Cuz I too saw the fight starting to change. Cotto was already starting to back up in that moronic fashion of his. Had the fight gone on I think he would of just hung on and made it to the bell to take a points victory. But I doubt he cries like a bitch in celebration afterwards.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Update..



    By Dan Ambrose:


    After seeing the Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito fight last night for the second time, I’m now even more convinced that Cotto was saved by the referee stepping in and halting the fight after the 9th round last week to prevent Cotto from being knocked out for a second time against the tough Mexican warrior Margarito. Cotto doesn’t deserve to move on and fight Manny Pacquiao again or face Floyd Mayweather Jr. for that matter. Cotto deserves Margarito one more time.


    The fight pretty much proved that Margarito beat Cotto fair and square in their first fight in 2008, because Margarito was wearing Cotto down much in the same way this time. At the end of the 9th, Cotto was looking weaker, tired and was starting to take bad punishment. Had the referee not halted the fight at that point, Margarito would have had three long rounds to work Cotto over, bust his face up, and hurt him with uppercuts like last time.

    I’m convinced we would have seen Cotto down on his knees in a submissive position ready to surrender to Margarito’s force of will. I saw it happening it really makes me angry how the doctor halted a fight where Margarito could still see out of his swollen right eye. The fight needed to have continued, but the stoppage clearly favored Cotto. He didn’t have to take Margarito’s punishment when he no longer had the legs to run anymore.

    I think there really needs to be a third fight between Cotto and Margarito, but this time in a neutral venue with a different doctor working the fight. It can’t be in Cotto’s neck of the woods on the East coast because we could have Cotto winning by another controversial stoppage. It needs to be Vegas or ideally Mexico. I’d prefer Mexico since we just had the fight in Cotto’s territory.


    It’s only fair that the fight be held in Margarito’s home country. Right now each fighter has won one fight a piece, and Margarito’s win was a lot more impressive than Cotto’s. To find out who the better fighter is, they need one more fight but we can’t have a doctor hastily jumping in and putting a stop to it at the first sign of trouble for Cotto.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Hilarious.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    I'm just going to assume that Dan Ambrose is functionally retarded. Judging by his writing ability and the cohesion of his arguments it seems like a logical conclusion.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Update..



    By Dan Ambrose:


    After seeing the Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito fight last night for the second time, I’m now even more convinced that Cotto was saved by the referee stepping in and halting the fight after the 9th round last week to prevent Cotto from being knocked out for a second time against the tough Mexican warrior Margarito. Cotto doesn’t deserve to move on and fight Manny Pacquiao again or face Floyd Mayweather Jr. for that matter. Cotto deserves Margarito one more time.


    The fight pretty much proved that Margarito beat Cotto fair and square in their first fight in 2008, because Margarito was wearing Cotto down much in the same way this time. At the end of the 9th, Cotto was looking weaker, tired and was starting to take bad punishment. Had the referee not halted the fight at that point, Margarito would have had three long rounds to work Cotto over, bust his face up, and hurt him with uppercuts like last time.

    I’m convinced we would have seen Cotto down on his knees in a submissive position ready to surrender to Margarito’s force of will. I saw it happening it really makes me angry how the doctor halted a fight where Margarito could still see out of his swollen right eye. The fight needed to have continued, but the stoppage clearly favored Cotto. He didn’t have to take Margarito’s punishment when he no longer had the legs to run anymore.

    I think there really needs to be a third fight between Cotto and Margarito, but this time in a neutral venue with a different doctor working the fight. It can’t be in Cotto’s neck of the woods on the East coast because we could have Cotto winning by another controversial stoppage. It needs to be Vegas or ideally Mexico. I’d prefer Mexico since we just had the fight in Cotto’s territory.


    It’s only fair that the fight be held in Margarito’s home country. Right now each fighter has won one fight a piece, and Margarito’s win was a lot more impressive than Cotto’s. To find out who the better fighter is, they need one more fight but we can’t have a doctor hastily jumping in and putting a stop to it at the first sign of trouble for Cotto.
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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Smoger is a very respected ref. His opinion is well valued. It's to bad he didn't get to make the final decision. Cuz I too saw the fight starting to change. Cotto was already starting to back up in that moronic fashion of his. Had the fight gone on I think he would of just hung on and made it to the bell to take a points victory. But I doubt he cries like a bitch in celebration afterwards.
    I like a ref who lets a fighter fight as much as the next guy, but this is the same idiot who let let Gatti get battered by Gomez; who would have let it continue until the coroner carted his body out in a ba. If Hazzard hadn't intervened in that massacre who knows how long Smoger would have stood by with his thumb up his ass!

    Granted I think Margarito should have been left to continue, but using Smoger's decision making as the basis of your argument is laughable. Although laughable is the bearing of the majority of your posts.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Smoger is a very respected ref. His opinion is well valued. It's to bad he didn't get to make the final decision. Cuz I too saw the fight starting to change. Cotto was already starting to back up in that moronic fashion of his. Had the fight gone on I think he would of just hung on and made it to the bell to take a points victory. But I doubt he cries like a bitch in celebration afterwards.
    I like a ref who lets a fighter fight as much as the next guy, but this is the same idiot who let let Gatti get battered by Gomez; who would have let it continue until the coroner carted his body out in a ba. If Hazzard hadn't intervened in that massacre who knows how long Smoger would have stood by with his thumb up his ass!

    Granted I think Margarito should have been left to continue, but using Smoger's decision making as the basis of your argument is laughable. Although laughable is the bearing of the majority of your posts.
    No it was not. Again you show how pathetic your boxing knowledge is. Smoger didn't call Gatti-Gomez. It was Randy Neuman. Stupid muthafukka. Go back to being the cool guy who buys beer and gets drunk with a bunch of 15 year old boys. To them ther's no one cooler than you. '

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Preme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Smoger is a very respected ref. His opinion is well valued. It's to bad he didn't get to make the final decision. Cuz I too saw the fight starting to change. Cotto was already starting to back up in that moronic fashion of his. Had the fight gone on I think he would of just hung on and made it to the bell to take a points victory. But I doubt he cries like a bitch in celebration afterwards.
    I like a ref who lets a fighter fight as much as the next guy, but this is the same idiot who let let Gatti get battered by Gomez; who would have let it continue until the coroner carted his body out in a ba. If Hazzard hadn't intervened in that massacre who knows how long Smoger would have stood by with his thumb up his ass!

    Granted I think Margarito should have been left to continue, but using Smoger's decision making as the basis of your argument is laughable. Although laughable is the bearing of the majority of your posts.
    No it was not. Again you show how pathetic your boxing knowledge is. Smoger didn't call Gatti-Gomez. It was Randy Neuman. Stupid muthafukka. Go back to being the cool guy who buys beer and gets drunk with a bunch of 15 year old boys. To them ther's no one cooler than you. '
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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Smoger is a very respected ref. His opinion is well valued. It's to bad he didn't get to make the final decision. Cuz I too saw the fight starting to change. Cotto was already starting to back up in that moronic fashion of his. Had the fight gone on I think he would of just hung on and made it to the bell to take a points victory. But I doubt he cries like a bitch in celebration afterwards.

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda..... Kind of sad seeing you all bitter like that, VD. Tell you what. Why don't you and Outspoken take turns licking Margafucko's balls..... er..... I mean.... wounds.


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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    if by backing up you mean pushing Margarito fucking forward and manhandling him onto the ropes, then yea I saw Cotto starting to do that as well in the 8th and 9th

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    VD is correct. I wholeheartedly agree with him in this thread.

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    Default Re: Steve Smoger felt Margarito was turning the tide when the doctor robbed Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    if by backing up you mean pushing Margarito fucking forward and manhandling him onto the ropes, then yea I saw Cotto starting to do that as well in the 8th and 9th
    Yes, Margarito was coming on strong late. The 8th and 9th were two of his best rounds; after all, one of the judges gave him one of those rounds.

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