Which fighter received the greatest gift of all in 2011

**LobowolfXXX** · 12-19-2011 04:51 AM

This thread is a litmus test to sort the objective fans from the ones who have no credibility at all. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously on any thread around here, you gotta vote Helenius.

**Beanz** · 12-19-2011 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

This thread is a litmus test to sort the objective fans from the ones who have no credibility at all. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously on any thread around here, you gotta vote Helenius.

Who made you the arbiter of credibility? Chisora was robbed,but so was Marquez. You obviously don't agree but you can't call someone's judgement and credibility into question because they have a different opinion to you. Del boy will come again JMM Is at the end of his career and had the opportunity of being credited with beating the number 2 P4P snatched away from him.

**LobowolfXXX** · 12-20-2011 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by LobowolfXXX

This thread is a litmus test to sort the objective fans from the ones who have no credibility at all. If you want to be taken even a little bit seriously on any thread around here, you gotta vote Helenius.

Who made you the arbiter of credibility? Chisora was robbed,but so was Marquez. You obviously don't agree but you can't call someone's judgement and credibility into question because they have a different opinion to you. Del boy will come again JMM Is at the end of his career and had the opportunity of being credited with beating the number 2 P4P snatched away from him.

Of course I can call someone's judgment and credibility into question because he or she has a different opinion. Isn't that exactly what everyone on this board is doing when they say that a judge's decision is a "gift" or a "robbery"?

The fact that it may have been JMM's last chance is irrelevant to how big a gift it was. Does it suck more for Marquez? Yeah, probably so. But there's a difference between a disputed, or even "bad" decision, and a total fuckin' joke. Helenius-Chisora isn't even in the same category. It would have to get substantially elevated to be called a "bad decision."