Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

[imp]

Calzaghe is god himself!?
Wow!
Calzaghe is a great fighter but compared to khan, hatton and froch with taking risks he falls way down the league..and that is a huge letdown for him.

He should take a risk and come back and beat ward which he probably could but he wont because ward is not over 40.

[Gandalf]

Calzaghe is god himself!?
Wow!
Calzaghe is a great fighter but compared to khan, hatton and froch with taking risks he falls way down the league..and that is a huge letdown for him.

He should take a risk and come back and beat ward which he probably could but he wont because ward is not over 40.

No way should Calzaghe come back to fight Ward. He has been out too long and his style isn't for an old fighter. Calzaghe did well to even be going at 36. People talk about Jones and Hopkins being too old, but it was Calzaghe who always had the young man style. Massive output and stamina and to still have it at 36 was remarkable. Show me Khan, Hatton or Froch at 36.

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

[LobowolfXXX]

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

Who's Ward supposed to beat? Obviously, we can't assess his longevity for a while, but just in the last 2 1/2 years, he's beaten Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Bika, and Froch.

[Gandalf]

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

Who's Ward supposed to beat? Obviously, we can't assess his longevity for a while, but just in the last 2 1/2 years, he's beaten Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Bika, and Froch.

I think Kessler deserves a rematch. Bute would be a logical fight. Also Hopkins and maybe down the line a fight with Chad Dawson.

[LobowolfXXX]

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

Who's Ward supposed to beat? Obviously, we can't assess his longevity for a while, but just in the last 2 1/2 years, he's beaten Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Bika, and Froch.

I think Kessler deserves a rematch. Bute would be a logical fight. Also Hopkins and maybe down the line a fight with Chad Dawson.

Did Kessler deserve a rematch against Calzaghe? Did Hopkins?

[Gandalf]

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

Who's Ward supposed to beat? Obviously, we can't assess his longevity for a while, but just in the last 2 1/2 years, he's beaten Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Bika, and Froch.

I think Kessler deserves a rematch. Bute would be a logical fight. Also Hopkins and maybe down the line a fight with Chad Dawson.

Did Kessler deserve a rematch against Calzaghe? Did Hopkins?

No, because neither of those fighters had the skillset to deal with Calzaghe. Calzaghe/Kessler was a clean fight. Hopkins/Calzaghe wasn't clean, but it was decisive.

Kessler/Ward was extremely tarnished and foul play was stamped all over it. Kessler didn't deserve to be held and rammed all evening.

[LobowolfXXX]

Hopkins didn't have the skillset to deal with Calzaghe? You wouldn't have known it from the judges' cards or the knockdown. You're kind of moving the goalposts a bit when you talk about Ward/Kessler and Calzaghe/Hopkins. You say that Calzaghe/Hopkins "wasn't clean, but it was decisive." Well, Ward/Kessler, even if it wasn't clean, was decisive.

At a comparable age, there's no contest in their resumes; Ward has it all over Calzaghe. He's beaten the Ring Magazine #2, 3, 5, and 9. Calzaghe's level of competition at the same age pales in comparison. Calzaghe's resume was made in the later years. We'll have to see what Ward does in the next 10 years. That doesn't mean that a 27 year old Ward would beat a 27 year old Calzaghe; but he's certainly demonstrated his clear superiority over more of the top 168-pounders than Calzaghe did at this stage.

[littlebif]

Hopkins did have they skills to match calzaghe but he doesnt have the workrate and thats what won it for calzaghe.

[Gandalf]

Hopkins did have they skills to match calzaghe but he doesnt have the workrate and thats what won it for calzaghe.

The stamina and workrate is part of the skillset. Either you can throw that much or you can't. Calzaghe's output was an ability and you have to include it as one of his tools. Hopkins has never had it in him to throw a hundred punches in a round. It is one of the things that makes Calzaghe great.

[CFH]

Calzaghe was the man for a decade and who else was he supposed to beat? People pick on Calzaghe, but bar Sven Ottke he beat everyone on the radar.

Who's Ward supposed to beat? Obviously, we can't assess his longevity for a while, but just in the last 2 1/2 years, he's beaten Miranda, Kessler, Green, Abraham, Bika, and Froch.

I think Kessler deserves a rematch. Bute would be a logical fight. Also Hopkins and maybe down the line a fight with Chad Dawson.

I know I'm late to the party here, but - aside from losing every minute of every round - what has Kessler done to deserve a rematch with Ward?