Joe Calzaghe: Andre Ward is good but beatable

[erics44]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

[Gandalf]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

Reid was only tough because Calzaghe buggered his hand up. He was coasting relatively easily up until then. Calzaghe has never looked particularly beatable to me. He didn't lose many rounds.

[ICB]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

Reid was only tough because Calzaghe buggered his hand up. He was coasting relatively easily up until then. Calzaghe has never looked particularly beatable to me. He didn't lose many rounds.

Robin Reid landed all the eye catching punches, the one's that constantly snapped back Joe Calzaghe's head, i felt Robin Reid won the fight.

[erics44]

Robin Reid landed all the eye catching punches, the one's that constantly snapped back Joe Calzaghe's head, i felt Robin Reid won the fight.

ive watched that fight twice, first time i thought reid won second time i realised i was wrong

[Fenster]

One of the judges that had Froch-Ward 115-113 gave FRoch 4 of the first 5 rounds. He gave the last three to Ward. I don't think Froch's strong finish was really that impressive.

I honestly can't see a single reason why Froch would ever beat Ward.

They fight ten times it's 10 nil to Jesus.

[erics44]

One of the judges that had Froch-Ward 115-113 gave FRoch 4 of the first 5 rounds. He gave the last three to Ward. I don't think Froch's strong finish was really that impressive.

I honestly can't see a single reason why Froch would ever beat Ward.

They fight ten times it's 10 nil to Jesus.

Sounds like that judge had never seen a fight before

But the point isnt that froch had a strong finish, its that ward fades

[Mar]

Look i like joe, but his creditbility deserved or not isn't really all that good in the boxing world,especially in the states. Calzaghe has shown to be way way more good but beatable than ward. Like the the two senior citizens that put him on his ass. Ward aint the greatest but geeeezzzz going out of your way to hate on the guy out of the blue as if you're still a factor in the sport is silly. Find something to do joe. Or help enzo or something.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

I think he looked average in a few successive fights against seemingly lesser opp, getting rocked and decked and just not performing that greatly. I think that's a factor when up against a real technician like Ward.

[Gandalf]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

I think he looked average in a few successive fights against seemingly lesser opp, getting rocked and decked and just not performing that greatly. I think that's a factor when up against a real technician like Ward.

It's not as though Ward has never been hurt before or been clinging to survive. He is extremely vulnerable, but the likes of Froch and Green are not going to be able to do anything because they are a rung or even 2 below the level that Calzaghe brought to the division.

It's easy to state that Ward is a technician, but since when has that ever bothered Calzaghe who has shown he can outwork crafty fighters. Ward has never fought anyone like Joe Calzaghe. It would be a real eye opener for him and I can see him being shell shocked after a couple of rounds. He was looking panicky against Froch towards the end. Since when has Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather ever look panicky. It would be like Floyd getting tired after ten against Baldomir and start clinging on for dear life. It just doesn't happen. Ward is simply not on that level and chin and stamina are his weaknesses.

Calzaghe has most of his opponents doing the Iggy Pop thousand yard stare by the half way mark. Ward would be no different. He is savvy with the clinching etc, but overall does nothing particularly outstanding. I don't see how he can trouble Calzaghe. Calzaghe would rip him with 4 punches before Octopus man gets his grip around him. Rinse and repeat.

[erics44]

Back in the day Joe could slap a motherfucker out... Not really sure what happened to his power over the years But i'm sure it would of been a very close fight either way. Joe looked far from unbeatable but always won... Ward is pretty flawless and shrewd but he wouldn't put a dent in Joe's confidence so i think it'd be Joe who finishes the more vibrantly... It just depends on how things went down during the first 8 rounds.

Hmmm...

Okay, i'd be more inclined to see how Ward's career develops over the next 3-5 years but i'm thinking this would be a slightly epic draw.

REMATCH!

joe had a couple of fights, reid and one other where he didnt really perform but appart from that which fights did he look beatable in?

every other fight he had were pretty confortable

I think he looked average in a few successive fights against seemingly lesser opp, getting rocked and decked and just not performing that greatly. I think that's a factor when up against a real technician like Ward.

which fights was he decked hurt against which lesser opposition?

he was first decked and the first time he looked in the slightest bit hurt was against byron mitchell and he blasted him away the next round

then that salaman whatever his name was decked him but im sure he won every round in that fight appart from that one

bika bloodied his face but all with the head and joe was never hurt in the fight, again joe won every round bar 1 or 2, did a much better job than ward did on bika

then hopkins puts him down, flash knock down, and joe won that fight comfortably

then jones put him down (which was the only other time he actually looked hurt as well as against Mitchell) and that was the only round he lost

At this point in his career Ward wouldnt beat Joe Calzaghe and he would have to improve greatly to have any chance

[Gandalf]

I would also like to see Ward being warned and docked for his holding. I despise holding and clinching and it is nothing more than a spoiling tactic. If it's good enough for Khan then it is good enough for Ward and it would also mean a fair fight for the opponent and a better fight for the fans.

I apply the same logic to many fighters. Hopkins is the other obvious one.

[erics44]

I would also like to see Ward being warned and docked for his holding. I despise holding and clinching and it is nothing more than a spoiling tactic. If it's good enough for Khan then it is good enough for Ward and it would also mean a fair fight for the opponent and a better fight for the fans.

I apply the same logic to many fighters. Hopkins is the other obvious one.

mate, it amazes me that the ward kessler fight went without any points taken off and how, since, when everyone refers back to it talks about what a good performance it was

every single cut on Kesslers face was made by the head, everytime ward missed with a punch his head went straight in

[Gandalf]

I would also like to see Ward being warned and docked for his holding. I despise holding and clinching and it is nothing more than a spoiling tactic. If it's good enough for Khan then it is good enough for Ward and it would also mean a fair fight for the opponent and a better fight for the fans.

I apply the same logic to many fighters. Hopkins is the other obvious one.

mate, it amazes me that the ward kessler fight went without any points taken off and how, since, when everyone refers back to it talks about what a good performance it was

every single cut on Kesslers face was made by the head, everytime ward missed with a punch his head went straight in

I watched it again this evening just to recap and I was appalled.

Granted it was Ward on the major stage for the first time, but he has got away with it ever since. It was a shameful performance and I really believe Kessler deserves a rematch and that he would do much better.

Kessler had no expectation of any of that nastiness. He paid the penalty.

And then Ward launches into his 'Good lord' spiel afterwards and his wife of course was interviewed during the fight and declared that Ward was fighting for his Lord or something like that. Completely brainwashed weirdos.

And like many Christians they fight dirty and then pray to the lord for forgiveness afterwards. You cheated, you were horrible. 'Oh but the good lord forgives those that buy into the babble'.

Cue projectile vomiting.