America can now indefinitely hold US citizens without trial....scary!

[Ghost]

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[ruthless rocco]

miles is a douche.

[Gandalf]

miles is a douche.

Shouldn't you be posting music videos?

Anyway, better to be a douche than be Barrack Obama. I'm sure even Lyle will agree with that. Actually Obama is a big old douche himself. A nasty and murdering piece of work. I may be a lot of things, but I certainly don't have people killed.

[Andre]

Dont worry Miles,they dont have to pass this bill,they can detain you and do what they want if they say you are a suspected terrorist no one but your family will care.

They rip suspects off the streets in other countries now, Germany and Spain for two, fly them secretly into Poland or Chec and do it all there. They pay for the facility to escape from un laws instead of doing all the hard work at home,when they get the admission they take them to American soil. Its pretty well documented with private plane flight numbers and times matching detainees claims to the hour of the night of the dates they were abducted off the streets to where they landed. Documented by amature flight wathers both ends (who dont even have a direct interest (they just got some weird hobby of charting all flights in and out of little places.)

[Gandalf]

Dont worry Miles,they dont have to pass this bill,they can detain you and do what they want if they say you are a suspected terrorist no one but your family will care.

They rip suspects off the streets in other countries now, Germany and Spain for two, fly them secretly into Poland or Chec and do it all there. They pay for the facility to escape from un laws instead of doing all the hard work at home,when they get the admission they take them to American soil. Its pretty well documented with private plane flight numbers and times matching detainees claims to the hour of the night of the dates they were abducted off the streets to where they landed. Documented by amature flight wathers both ends (who dont even have a direct interest (they just got some weird hobby of charting all flights in and out of little places.)

True, rendition and torture are pretty well documented. In this instance I just found it very interesting how they were finally going to go after US citizens and have it as official policy. An open policy of tyranny was something that I found particularly astonishing.

As I say, I am extremely glad that the bill was amended, but the warning flags about Obama are all there and even in its so called watered down version the bill is still vague and extremely dangerous.

Guantanamo is open and is not going to be closed down. Nobody has a clue what those people are supposed to be doing there. Just because US citizens are off the hook, non-US citizens are still being detained with no sign of any trial in sight. The entire thing is a farce.

[Gandalf]

This blog documents the evolution of the bill. Absolutely terrifying and even letting American's get away without indefinite detention is still tyranny. What gives the US the right to detain anyone indefinitely with no trial?

NDAA | American Civil Liberties Union » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the American Civil Liberties Union

I'm surprised that everyone is voting that America has not become a tyrannical state. I mean, at the very least it is becoming one.