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    Default Re: America can now indefinitely hold US citizens without trial....scary!

    Thank you for the flattering final sentence, Lyle. All very true.

    I'm glad to see you agreeing with me. I think any sensible American would look at the legislation and be appalled and less we forget America is not at war with a particular nation, but some vaguely defined global threat of 'terror'. It is so vague that it is meaningless and with an America so stretched out across the globe and seemingly thinking it can run things as it wishes, any opposition could be viewed as so called 'terror'. It is legislation that is ripe for horrendous abuse and recent history suggests that such abuse is likely.

    It is all wrong and would really like to see American's challenge the state. It is definitely clamping down on anything 'free' or 'just' and this is just the latest in a series of tyrannical acts. Obviously protestors are not being shot dead or anything like that, but the methods and means are so much more sly and subversive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Thank you for the flattering final sentence, Lyle. All very true.

    I'm glad to see you agreeing with me. I think any sensible American would look at the legislation and be appalled and less we forget America is not at war with a particular nation, but some vaguely defined global threat of 'terror'. It is so vague that it is meaningless and with an America so stretched out across the globe and seemingly thinking it can run things as it wishes, any opposition could be viewed as so called 'terror'. It is legislation that is ripe for horrendous abuse and recent history suggests that such abuse is likely.

    It is all wrong and would really like to see American's challenge the state. It is definitely clamping down on anything 'free' or 'just' and this is just the latest in a series of tyrannical acts. Obviously protestors are not being shot dead or anything like that, but the methods and means are so much more sly and subversive.
    .....and?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Thank you for the flattering final sentence, Lyle. All very true.

    I'm glad to see you agreeing with me. I think any sensible American would look at the legislation and be appalled and less we forget America is not at war with a particular nation, but some vaguely defined global threat of 'terror'. It is so vague that it is meaningless and with an America so stretched out across the globe and seemingly thinking it can run things as it wishes, any opposition could be viewed as so called 'terror'. It is legislation that is ripe for horrendous abuse and recent history suggests that such abuse is likely.

    It is all wrong and would really like to see American's challenge the state. It is definitely clamping down on anything 'free' or 'just' and this is just the latest in a series of tyrannical acts. Obviously protestors are not being shot dead or anything like that, but the methods and means are so much more sly and subversive.
    .....and?
    And what? Are you really so stuck in the sand?

    It's up to you American's what you do about it and thankfully there are some willing to stand up for their country. Obviously not you, but many others.

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    Default Re: America can now indefinitely hold US citizens without trial....scary!

    Chomsky on the money as usual:


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