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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaspy3 View Post
    I think the main thing here is to be realistic and reasonable about the intent of the "offender" and the actual power behind the punch. It is clear to see that the punch Dirrel threw late was both unintentional and more of a love tap which would never have resulted in any significant damage to the opponent. Also it was sort of a straight on jab. On the other hand, Abraham, who is known to have a good punch, got Dirrel with a much harder punch thrown with more aggression and from an awkward angle that would twist the head more. The two are only similar in basic concept but otherwise, as someone said earlier, its like apples and oranges.
    perhaps, but where do you draw the line?

    when does the apples and oranges become appanges or orales?

    get me?

    dirrell threw a punch very very late

    Jamie Moore was DQ'd against michael jones for a late punch that was within a second late

    following this the world renowned salford university did a extensive study and it was found that a human brain doesnt work quick enough so Jamie would never have been able to pull out of the punch

    the AA punch was less than a second after the knee hit the floor and the dirrell punch was a lot more than a second

    this shows that there was no intent to bend the rules by AA and there was by Dirrell

    surely this means that the punch that dirrell threw deserves the punishment more than that that AA threw despite the power in the punch

    also what the viewer sees as a powerful punch and what is a powerfull punch can never be even in the slightest bit proven as fact, for example Lee Selby Knocked out the very durable John Simpson with a body shot a couple of weeks ago that looked nothing at all

    if that punch had have landed late and john gone down and selby DQ'd then watching it back we would all be calling John a cheat
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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    I think the ref should have a 3-5 sec window in his head about a punch being late enough to DQ a fighter. You can't DQ a second after the bell.

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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by jabvargas24 View Post
    I think the ref should have a 3-5 sec window in his head about a punch being late enough to DQ a fighter. You can't DQ a second after the bell.
    Should AA have been DQ'd?
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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jabvargas24 View Post
    I think the ref should have a 3-5 sec window in his head about a punch being late enough to DQ a fighter. You can't DQ a second after the bell.
    Should AA have been DQ'd?
    Of course he should have. He was being owned for 11 rounds and although it's certainly unfortunate on his part if it was just an instinct reaction from him that he couldn't pull out of, what other option did the referee have? Call it a No Contest and give AA a fresh start in a rematch? That wouldn't have been fair either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post

    Of course he should have. He was being owned for 11 rounds and although it's certainly unfortunate on his part if it was just an instinct reaction from him that he couldn't pull out of, what other option did the referee have? Call it a No Contest and give AA a fresh start in a rematch? That wouldn't have been fair either.
    Do you believe that dirrell was legitimately knocked out?

    If not, do you think that was fair?
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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    This is the dumbest thread in quite a while. OP - accept that no one agrees with you and quit.

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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by shza View Post
    This is the dumbest thread in quite a while. OP - accept that no one agrees with you and quit.
    noone agrees with me on what point big man?
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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    On the one hand, it seems to have been accidental - or at least not malicious. Most fighters hit guys while they're going down, and I'm pretty sure the punch started before it was clear he was down.

    On the other hand the referee should have been there - but he was mincing around on the other side of the ring - then he SAUNTERS over...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post

    Of course he should have. He was being owned for 11 rounds and although it's certainly unfortunate on his part if it was just an instinct reaction from him that he couldn't pull out of, what other option did the referee have? Call it a No Contest and give AA a fresh start in a rematch? That wouldn't have been fair either.
    Do you believe that dirrell was legitimately knocked out?

    If not, do you think that was fair?
    Only Direll knows that and it would be stupid of the ref to make a judgement call like that. Everybody had an opinion about Direll after the fight but nobody knew for sure so how can you not DQ Abraham? You call what you see..and it appeared Direll couldn't continue, end of. Anyway didnt that punch cause him to be out for over a year?

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    Default Re: should dirrell have been dq'd in his last fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post

    Of course he should have. He was being owned for 11 rounds and although it's certainly unfortunate on his part if it was just an instinct reaction from him that he couldn't pull out of, what other option did the referee have? Call it a No Contest and give AA a fresh start in a rematch? That wouldn't have been fair either.
    Do you believe that dirrell was legitimately knocked out?

    If not, do you think that was fair?
    Only Direll knows that and it would be stupid of the ref to make a judgement call like that. Everybody had an opinion about Direll after the fight but nobody knew for sure so how can you not DQ Abraham? You call what you see..and it appeared Direll couldn't continue, end of. Anyway didnt that punch cause him to be out for over a year?
    althugz just nailed it.. How can anybody say that dirrel should have been dq'd..

    He may have exaggerated a bit but that's not even the issue cuz abraham commited a blatant foul either way.

    I actually think dirrell was robbed of a career defining moment cuz it looked as though he was cruising his way to a wide decision victory..

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