Marlon Brando on Jews and Native Indians

[El Kabong]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

[Gandalf]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

[El Kabong]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

The Swiss Odd someone with your hatred of large banks would like them...though they did allow the Nazi's to keep their money there so that sort of fits into your whole "I hate the Jews" thing.....Finland? Another "sit on the fence" country miles when you are a Super Power, you don't have the luxury of being able to sit on the fence which is probably why you hate the US and England, they are decisive, they must be.


Andre, there's nothing now that can be done about slavery or the indians....LET IT GO

[Gandalf]

Miles why only the anger at America for their failings? Why no anger at anyone else

Answer: Because miles is a liberal and hates America and will never be pleased with anything America has done or will do.

The US and the UK are the two nations that pretend to be democratic and just and they are anything but. It is the blatant hypocrisy of them both that I loathe. Their policies show them to be violent, repressive and dictatorial.

China has never pretended to be open or free. Actually, I look upon many nations with respect. Finland and Switzerland are fine examples of well run countries. They largely keep themselves to themselves, have decent social policies and are generally respected by people. Britain and America on the other hand are arrogant, forever involved in the affairs of others and furthermore repress their own people with freemarket policies that enslave the majority. Furthermore, you don't see Finland going around assassinating, torturing or invading other nations.

America and Britain of 1945 to the end of the 1960's showed potential, but all that promise has been eradicated and people see these nations for what they really are. They are despicable and at least in the case of America, I struggle to differentiate it from a country like China with the recent erosion of civil liberties and human rights.

The Swiss Odd someone with your hatred of large banks would like them...though they did allow the Nazi's to keep their money there so that sort of fits into your whole "I hate the Jews" thing.....Finland? Another "sit on the fence" country miles when you are a Super Power, you don't have the luxury of being able to sit on the fence which is probably why you hate the US and England, they are decisive, they must be.


Andre, there's nothing now that can be done about slavery or the indians....LET IT GO

They can push their economies without oppressing and killing globally. Many nations do so. Being a global superpower does not give you the right to do what you want and inflict whatever suffering you like on other nations. The UK has a terrible history and the US has arguably surpassed any harm that we may have inflicted. I will not nod my head and say 'Good job America or good job Britain on your colonial past'. That would be dishonest and making excuses for power hungry war mongers and that is all that they are.

There is a lot that can be done to atone for our pasts. We can present the true history in our textbooks and show it for what it was which was a racist, dishonest, bloodthirsty, imperialist conquest. America is a big country, half of it could very easily be given back to the Indian population and the same with Australia and the Aborigines. It won't happen because we are cowardly, dishonest and greedy. Britain has its own responsibility to Ireland and our own particular land theft.

[Gandalf]

The point I am making though is that you can be a successful economy without imposing your military or economic blackmail upon others. Switzerland in particular is a very successful economy. You don't have Switzerland murdering people on independent soil nor hear of them carrying out programs of rendition or ordering indefinite incarceration or opening prison camps offshore to torture people. Those actions are what tyrannical states do. Normal states don't do that kind of thing. Britain is very much complicit with a lot of what the US has been doing and so they deserve fire and brimstone too.

[El Kabong]

The point I am making though is that you can be a successful economy without imposing your military or economic blackmail upon others. Switzerland in particular is a very successful economy. You don't have Switzerland murdering people on independent soil nor hear of them carrying out programs of rendition or ordering indefinite incarceration or opening prison camps offshore to torture people. Those actions are what tyrannical states do. Normal states don't do that kind of thing. Britain is very much complicit with a lot of what the US has been doing and so they deserve fire and brimstone too.

Really The Swiss do not use their ill gotten wealth to their benefit? Do you raise them up that highly miles?

Politics are politics no matter what flag you're under...in this matter I must say you've shown yourself to be either blindly idealistic or simply niave

[Gandalf]

The point I am making though is that you can be a successful economy without imposing your military or economic blackmail upon others. Switzerland in particular is a very successful economy. You don't have Switzerland murdering people on independent soil nor hear of them carrying out programs of rendition or ordering indefinite incarceration or opening prison camps offshore to torture people. Those actions are what tyrannical states do. Normal states don't do that kind of thing. Britain is very much complicit with a lot of what the US has been doing and so they deserve fire and brimstone too.

Really The Swiss do not use their ill gotten wealth to their benefit? Do you raise them up that highly miles?

Politics are politics no matter what flag you're under...in this matter I must say you've shown yourself to be either blindly idealistic or simply niave

Yes, I do actually.

The Swiss make most of their money from manufacturing, Lyle. They manufacture industrial chemicals and machinery which is why their products are not all that noticeable, but they are very significant.

Switzerland is an extremely successful economy, the people enjoy a high standard of living and the state is largely neutral.