Pac vs cotto 2 - june 9

**imp** · 01-15-2012 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by ninjaspy3

One thing that really annoys me about this.

In the other threads tracking the adventures of Floyd and Pac, there were certain people claiming that Floyd didn't really want the fight and that him calling out Pac was just a bluff. I find it interesting to briefly summarize the most recent events leading to this thread here.

-After a less than impressive "victory" over Marquez, Pac's team does not seem to be even thinking about Floyd as the next match. Instead they are considering a 4th fight with Marquez

-correct me if I'm wrong but I think Floyd was showing interest at this point in fighting Pac, but then as we all know, Floyd was sentenced to a prison term. There was much speculation about whether Floyd could serve the time and still prepare to fight Pac.

-Meanwhile, Team Pac was looking for a fight in May, correct?

-Floyd's prison term is pushed back, likely so that the fight can take place

-Pac's team says a cut will keep Pac from fighting in May

-Floyd calls out Pac over twitter. Certain people here claimed that it was invalid and that Floyd did not really want the fight

-Pac "accepts" Floyds demands but the articals released blame Floyd for being the one who doesnt have everything lined up and ready to go... then some excuses are thrown around the the fight Venue is too small.

-And that bring us to this thread here: Pac fighting Cotto. WTF

Does anyone have anything at all to say about this? Whether or not the fight would be interesting is sort of irrelevant. Why are they even making this fight?
If it was Pac's intent to fight in June all along then they could have stated that a long time ago and Floyd very likely could have taken the fight had his prison term not been pushed back.

This is pure BS if this fight happens.

Exactly

**Althugz** · 01-16-2012 01:47 PM

It really makes me laugh when people say Floyd never wanted any part of Pacquiao..what would he be afraid of? Making the most money he's ever made? Pacquiao in the Marquez fight didn't show Floyd anything that Floyd didn't already know...that a smart counter puncher will give Pacquiao fits.

The whole negotiation saga in 2009 was them both being diva's trying to show the other who is boss with their demands. Nothing more, nothing less. If Pac agreed to the tests we would have had a fight. Do I blame him? Yes and no but my point is neither of these guys are afraid of each other. This fight hasn't happened either because of their ego's or simply Bob Arum. I really don't see how somebody can see it any other way. It's glaringly obvious

**ElTerribleMorales** · 01-16-2012 02:37 PM

IMO Cotto and Marquez are the most deserving outside of Mayweather, Bradley hasn't really done too much to get the shot and Peterson much less, IMO Cotto would surprise a lot of people on here in a rematch, he's in a good place mentally, actually has a corner now (and a damn good one at that) and he's boxing more now than he has in a long time, he hasn't really taken punishment since the Pacquiao fight and the fight would be at 154, hell even Rafael was picking Cotto as the best choice of the 4 (only barring Marquez cause although he was robbed in all 3 what's the point anymore?)

**Leighton** · 01-17-2012 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Althugz

It really makes me laugh when people say Floyd never wanted any part of Pacquiao..what would he be afraid of? Making the most money he's ever made? Pacquiao in the Marquez fight didn't show Floyd anything that Floyd didn't already know...that a smart counter puncher will give Pacquiao fits.

The whole negotiation saga in 2009 was them both being diva's trying to show the other who is boss with their demands. Nothing more, nothing less. If Pac agreed to the tests we would have had a fight. Do I blame him? Yes and no but my point is neither of these guys are afraid of each other. This fight hasn't happened either because of their ego's or simply Bob Arum. I really don't see how somebody can see it any other way. It's glaringly obvious

Fear of a person is not the problem. Nore is fear of getting hurt. The fear they both have is losing there status. Pacs past three performances have been sh*t where as Mayweathers have been brilliant. Now Pac pretty much looses to a man Floyd beat easily. You dont think this has anything to do with his sudden spout of bravery. It was only a little while ago when Floyd said he did not need to fight Pac. What happened to all that talk.
And why is Pac not accepting this challenge. He is still afraid of losing his status.
The fight would have been alot more competitive a couple of years ago. Im going for mayweather to win an easy decision now.

**imp** · 01-16-2012 03:54 PM

Boxing scene already confirmed pac will not fight cotto above 147.
Arum is not risking pac having anither performance like the marquez one.
Manny will avoid mayweather and marquez like bad breath.

**ninjaspy3** · 01-16-2012 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by imp

Boxing scene already confirmed pac will not fight cotto above 147.
Arum is not risking pac having anither performance like the marquez one.
Manny will avoid mayweather and marquez like bad breath.

To hell with it. Im going to say it since no one else will.

Pac is ducking Floyd! Ha!

**captainanddew** · 01-16-2012 05:11 PM

i placed more blame on Floyd than Pac and Arum previously for this fight not taking place. This time I'm blaming Arum and Pac. Floyd got around to pushing for the fight (or at the least posturing for it) and Arum's responses have all been see through excuses. He doesn't even want to try to make the fight.

If Arum tried to make the fight and it didn't work out I wouldn't begrudge him, but I have a hard time believing a guy with so many excuses is willing to even make a good faith effort. Screw Arum.

**Mars_ax** · 01-17-2012 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by captainanddew

i placed more blame on Floyd than Pac and Arum previously for this fight not taking place. This time I'm blaming Arum and Pac. Floyd got around to pushing for the fight (or at the least posturing for it) and Arum's responses have all been see through excuses. He doesn't even want to try to make the fight.

If Arum tried to make the fight and it didn't work out I wouldn't begrudge him, but I have a hard time believing a guy with so many excuses is willing to even make a good faith effort. Screw Arum.

Fucking Lawyers, can't trust 'um.