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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

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    Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
    Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    I don't think Light Heavyweights should really come into play here, seeing as this was a middleweight fight.

    LaMotta would've taken it.
    Robinson, too.

    I'm not sure about anybody else. Pryor probably had a pretty decent chance of staying in there.

    I don't really think Hagler was hurt, either. The guy's dome was hard like a football helmet. He had a fantastic chin. If he was hurt, he recovered fantastically.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.

    Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    If Arguello could hurt Pryor then a professional "All growed up" Tommy Hearns would have stopped him.

    Maybe De la Hoya or Mosely could have taken that power for a bit, but I am thinking that even those guys (who had really solid chins) would wither under those shots
    Arguello was a powerful hitter. I wouldn't put that to Pryor's discredit quite too much.

    Interesting enough that you referred to a professional Hearns as "all growed up." Jogged my memory I bit. Hearns barely got any knockouts as an Amatuer. He used his boxing skills to beat everybody in the beginning. He didn't develop his punch until he got into the professional game.

    Hearns was certainly fantastic. If the guy had an iron chin, he'd have been unstoppable. Imagine how much of a monster he would have been with an iron chin and excellent skills on the inside.

    My imagination is running away from me. I apologize.

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    I think if Hearns could KO Duran he could KO anyone, especially at the lower weights the only people I could think that could have survived would be at middleweight Ray Robinson and Eubanks.
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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Carlos Monzon
    Aaron Pryor
    Bennie Briscoe
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Archie Moore
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    Mike McCallum
    Antonio Margarito
    Dick Tiger
    Jake LaMotta
    Charley Burley
    Ezzard Charles
    James Toney
    Beranrd Hopkins
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Great list.
    Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
    Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
    Nigel Benn would have been knocked down. But look out once he got back up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Carlos Monzon
    Aaron Pryor
    Bennie Briscoe
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Archie Moore
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Chris Eubank
    Mike McCallum
    Antonio Margarito
    Dick Tiger
    Jake LaMotta
    Charley Burley
    Ezzard Charles
    James Toney
    Beranrd Hopkins
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Great list.
    Can add Kid Gavilan, Ezzard Charles, Nigel Benn and Oscar de la Hoya to the list.
    Not many WW but more MW and LHW would just because of their size and weight.
    Nigel Benn would have been knocked down. But look out once he got back up
    Definitely. I think most fighters on the list would have been knocked down but their heart and recuperative abilities would have helped them see the end of the round.
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    How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
    I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
    I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
    I'm going to have to look that up now.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
    I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
    I'm going to have to look that up now.

    Doug DeWitt is the definition of the word: TOUGH.
    Remember Benn taking DeWitt out, a face only a Mother could love one tough SOB.!

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    DeWitt was a character. Hardly any amateur background, but he had a pretty good left hand when he chose to use it, but often (like against McCrory) he'd just eat punches. Never down or hurt until, in an ESPN fight he was dominating, he walked into a right hand and went out. After that, he was a little shaky.

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    Default Re: Could ANY other welter/middle/LH have taken Hearns' shots in round 1 that hagler

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnsebastianmiran View Post
    How could anyone forget Iran Barkley? He beat Hearns twice.
    I was suprised nobody mentioned that sooner: Barkley did take those shots and kod Hearns at least as dramatically as did Hagler. And Doug DeWitt. Watch the 2nd round of his fight with Hearns.
    I'm going to have to look that up now.

    Doug DeWitt is the definition of the word: TOUGH.
    Remember Benn taking DeWitt out, a face only a Mother could love one tough SOB.!
    Dewitt put benn down early and Benn only finsihed him after a body shot.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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