Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

[Althugz]

I agreed with Miles' sentiments until he brought up Calzaghe as a plus point for boxing which really lowers the credibility of the arguement but alas, mistakes are made and can be forgiven..

MMA fighters don't make the switch because they would be destroyed. While I accept that MMA is a more "complete" fighting art, the fighters themselves are more like Jacks of all trades and masters of none. Of course, they have their strengths..Brock was an NCAA wrestling champion but the skills of an elite boxer who has mastered his craft just cannot be found in MMA (Think Floyd, Marquez etc)

Sure MMA is a more functional way to fight on the street but that doesn't make it any fun to watch. At least not for me. I have tried watching certain fights when friends on my Facebook post about how exhilarating the fight last night was..10 out

I agree that a top MMA fighter would not have much of a chance against a top boxer. But a top boxer would not have much of a chance against a top MMA fighter. There are simply too many dangers for a boxer to avoid. If they get into a clinch, the fight would be over. I have not seen many boxing fights that end before a single clinch. Put your head down, turn your back.
Same with a UFC fighter in boxing. He will have no where near as much boxing knowledge. He will be a much sloppier boxer. Less power with bigger gloves. Not the same upper body movement a boxer needs to learn. Less ahnd speed, etc.
Now with time, either pesron from either sport could learn the other discipline and be just as good. It all depends on the person and not the fact they trained in another sport.
I know I will never get equal ground here as im on a boxing forum. But I have seen so many top fighters from other sports come to UFC and get found out. They only improve and stand a chance when they learn the full array of MMA.
The fact that you think a boxer has a better chance of doing well in UFC than the other way round shows ignorance of the other sport. If you took your time and watched UFC and the range of skills you need in the Octagon to survive, you would understand that a boxers chance with just the boxing discipline would not last very long at all.

The fact that you understood my post to say "Boxers would do better in a cage than MMA fighters would do in a ring" befuddles me...did you even read my post before quoting it?

I said that I acknowledged MMA was a more complete fighting style. Strange how you misinterpreted that.

[Manos de Piedra]

I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.

[Leighton]

I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.

That probably means you are more naturaly gifted at MMA than you are at boxing. Also the level of opposition you fought in either sport.
Its nice to find someone who has done both sports. How did you find the ground game in MMA. Did it come easy to you or did you find people would be able to manouver there way around to always get the advantage. And when you go back into boxing do you find it hard not to try and throw a knee every time you get a fighter that puts his head down to avoid punches.

[Manos de Piedra]

I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.

That probably means you are more naturaly gifted at MMA than you are at boxing. Also the level of opposition you fought in either sport.
Its nice to find someone who has done both sports. How did you find the ground game in MMA. Did it come easy to you or did you find people would be able to manouver there way around to always get the advantage. And when you go back into boxing do you find it hard not to try and throw a knee every time you get a fighter that puts his head down to avoid punches.

That might be it, the opposition in boxing was just amateur fighters and in MMA it was beginners to semi pro. I did boxing before MMA so when I started sparring in MMA I found it quite easy to keep guys away with straight punches and front kicks because their stand up was weak. It was easy to block and avoid kicks. For ground game I practiced BJJ which wasn't too bad but against experienced fighters I got maneuvered around but complimented on my strength. The thing is when I was sparring in the MMA gym I would box to keep guy away but when I went boxing I got frustrated and wanted to take guys down. My body shape is more suited to MMA than boxing with my short arms n stocky build.

[Leighton]

I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.

That probably means you are more naturaly gifted at MMA than you are at boxing. Also the level of opposition you fought in either sport.
Its nice to find someone who has done both sports. How did you find the ground game in MMA. Did it come easy to you or did you find people would be able to manouver there way around to always get the advantage. And when you go back into boxing do you find it hard not to try and throw a knee every time you get a fighter that puts his head down to avoid punches.

That might be it, the opposition in boxing was just amateur fighters and in MMA it was beginners to semi pro. I did boxing before MMA so when I started sparring in MMA I found it quite easy to keep guys away with straight punches and front kicks because their stand up was weak. It was easy to block and avoid kicks. For ground game I practiced BJJ which wasn't too bad but against experienced fighters I got maneuvered around but complimented on my strength. The thing is when I was sparring in the MMA gym I would box to keep guy away but when I went boxing I got frustrated and wanted to take guys down. My body shape is more suited to MMA than boxing with my short arms n stocky build.

Its good you gave both a go. My mate is a kick boxer. He does reasonable well. He saw the UFC and thought he would give MMA a go. He found the ground game incredibly irritating.
Its not very easy to get off your back and turn it to your advantage. But being strong is helpful in your case. But sometimes with strength comes stamina problems. With the acception of the freak Brock Lesner.
I can understand why people hate the ground game. It gets on my nerves when you get a fighter that just holds the guy down the whole fight and does not go for a submission or a finish. Would like to see a thirty second stand up if nothing happens. But I suppose they cant do that as they would take the advantage away from one guy.

[Manos de Piedra]

I've tried both and I found boxing more difficult of the two. In my opinion and experience the sweet science is alot more difficult to master than grappling and take downs.

That probably means you are more naturaly gifted at MMA than you are at boxing. Also the level of opposition you fought in either sport.
Its nice to find someone who has done both sports. How did you find the ground game in MMA. Did it come easy to you or did you find people would be able to manouver there way around to always get the advantage. And when you go back into boxing do you find it hard not to try and throw a knee every time you get a fighter that puts his head down to avoid punches.

That might be it, the opposition in boxing was just amateur fighters and in MMA it was beginners to semi pro. I did boxing before MMA so when I started sparring in MMA I found it quite easy to keep guys away with straight punches and front kicks because their stand up was weak. It was easy to block and avoid kicks. For ground game I practiced BJJ which wasn't too bad but against experienced fighters I got maneuvered around but complimented on my strength. The thing is when I was sparring in the MMA gym I would box to keep guy away but when I went boxing I got frustrated and wanted to take guys down. My body shape is more suited to MMA than boxing with my short arms n stocky build.

Its good you gave both a go. My mate is a kick boxer. He does reasonable well. He saw the UFC and thought he would give MMA a go. He found the ground game incredibly irritating.
Its not very easy to get off your back and turn it to your advantage. But being strong is helpful in your case. But sometimes with strength comes stamina problems. With the acception of the freak Brock Lesner.
I can understand why people hate the ground game. It gets on my nerves when you get a fighter that just holds the guy down the whole fight and does not go for a submission or a finish. Would like to see a thirty second stand up if nothing happens. But I suppose they cant do that as they would take the advantage away from one guy.

Stamina is definitely an issue in ground game.

[Leighton]

I agreed with Miles' sentiments until he brought up Calzaghe as a plus point for boxing which really lowers the credibility of the arguement but alas, mistakes are made and can be forgiven..

MMA fighters don't make the switch because they would be destroyed. While I accept that MMA is a more "complete" fighting art, the fighters themselves are more like Jacks of all trades and masters of none. Of course, they have their strengths..Brock was an NCAA wrestling champion but the skills of an elite boxer who has mastered his craft just cannot be found in MMA (Think Floyd, Marquez etc)

Sure MMA is a more functional way to fight on the street but that doesn't make it any fun to watch. At least not for me. I have tried watching certain fights when friends on my Facebook post about how exhilarating the fight last night was..10 out

I agree that a top MMA fighter would not have much of a chance against a top boxer. But a top boxer would not have much of a chance against a top MMA fighter. There are simply too many dangers for a boxer to avoid. If they get into a clinch, the fight would be over. I have not seen many boxing fights that end before a single clinch. Put your head down, turn your back.
Same with a UFC fighter in boxing. He will have no where near as much boxing knowledge. He will be a much sloppier boxer. Less power with bigger gloves. Not the same upper body movement a boxer needs to learn. Less ahnd speed, etc.
Now with time, either pesron from either sport could learn the other discipline and be just as good. It all depends on the person and not the fact they trained in another sport.
I know I will never get equal ground here as im on a boxing forum. But I have seen so many top fighters from other sports come to UFC and get found out. They only improve and stand a chance when they learn the full array of MMA.
The fact that you think a boxer has a better chance of doing well in UFC than the other way round shows ignorance of the other sport. If you took your time and watched UFC and the range of skills you need in the Octagon to survive, you would understand that a boxers chance with just the boxing discipline would not last very long at all.

The fact that you understood my post to say "Boxers would do better in a cage than MMA fighters would do in a ring" befuddles me...did you even read my post before quoting it?

I said that I acknowledged MMA was a more complete fighting style. Strange how you misinterpreted that.

My apologies. I was reading and qouting as a continuation of a series of posts from other posters that proseed this conversation. When you said..... MMA fighters don't make the switch because they would be destroyed I thought you were siding with the poster who earlier said a boxer would be able to win an MMA fight but an MMA fighter would not be able to win a boxing match.
I am simply saying that whoever switch from one sport to the other would not stand much of a chance untill they learnt the full game of the other sport.
At the end of the day I think it is down to the fighter and not his origonal preference in sport.
You say an elite fighter could not be found in MMA. I would say that people like Anderson Silva and now Jhon Bones Jones are there or close to being there. They have mixed the knowledge of all fighting styles to counter any other single style that can be used in MMA.
I would say that boxers have over all mastered the skill of boxing more than MMA fighters have mastered the skill of MMA because MMA is a relitivly new sport compared to boxing. Not to mention the money pumped into boxing which always improves the quality of opponents in a sport.