Why dont MMA fighter`s turn to boxing?

[Leighton]

Why is it that MMA fighter`s never leave the cage to box while boxers seem to gravite to cage fighting? You would think it would be the other way around seeing theres so much more money to make in boxing(at the higher levels) but im sure if anderson silva would do ok and use his name to make the big bucks. MMA seems a lot harder than boxing(i box and have never tried cage fighting) the rounds are longer and they have so much more to deal with ,wrestling and so forth.

Go back 10 years ago and there may be some substance to this but now, I have to say "WTF"

UFC is nothing more than glorified strikers. Chuck Ruled the LHW being nothing more than a tough SOB who could foil a take down.

There has never a UFC fighter who could match a boxer. The most stupid question I have seen!

Yes money is better in boxing, but pick one UFC fighter who could accomplish something in boxing?

Pick a boxer who could accomplish something in the UFC.

Vitali Klitschko.....next question

Brock gets close. Vitali pushes his head down. Brock grabs his legs and finishes him. The end.

Where is the art and beauty in that vulgar abomination of human form? Sorry, I mean the previous description you gave.

It is hideous and so gay.

You really like that shit?

Why do you post on a boxing forum?

Dont get me wrong. I prefere boxing to MMA. This thread started out with people saying that a boxer could go into UFC with no understanding of the ground game and beat an MMA fighter.
I love the fact that boxing is stand up all the time and they display a whole different skill level in boxing to the standard UFC fighter.
But as a fight fan I cannot dissregard a certain type of fighting. It does not make sense to me. The fact that if you were to truely have a battle with someone you would not be able to tell them to they are not allowed to grab the other guy. UFC has rules in place of course but that is only for safety reasons. It is the closest thing to an all out battle you can get.
The ground game has its own complexities. I started to enjoy it the first time I saw Nogera fight in pride. He was getting beaten in the stand up and the other guy knocked him down. He was on his back and the other guy went for the finishing punch. He got hit with it but somehow managed to hold onto his arm. After a few seconds of the guy trying to puch from the dominant position he wrapped his legs around his head and pulled of an amasing triangle choke hold. That was it. The guy was bigger and stronger than him but he had the skill to perform a move when he was in that state.
If you get two good ground fighters they will sweep each other. Pull of multiple submission attempts. Escape from difficult submissions. Or stuff takedowns and get the knock out.
Then as well as that you have knees, kicks and move like spinning back fists. You may get alot of boring fights but so does boxing. When you get a good fight you can truely apreciate the skill each fighter has.

[PUGWARRIOR]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

[Leighton]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

I know. And I would give them the same chance of suddenly going over to boxing and winning a fight as I would give a boxer of going over to UFC and winning a fight. Not alot.
Thats how the discussion startded but other people said that a boxer could go to UFC an win but not the other way round. That is why we are at this point.

[El Kabong]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

I know. And I would give them the same chance of suddenly going over to boxing and winning a fight as I would give a boxer of going over to UFC and winning a fight. Not alot.
Thats how the discussion startded but other people said that a boxer could go to UFC an win but not the other way round. That is why we are at this point.

Ray Mercer beat former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia with 1 punch

[VictorCharlie]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

I know. And I would give them the same chance of suddenly going over to boxing and winning a fight as I would give a boxer of going over to UFC and winning a fight. Not alot.
Thats how the discussion startded but other people said that a boxer could go to UFC an win but not the other way round. That is why we are at this point.

Ray Mercer beat former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia with 1 punch

Sylvia was a fat slob by that time but Mercer also got pummeled by Kimbo Slice.

[El Kabong]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

I know. And I would give them the same chance of suddenly going over to boxing and winning a fight as I would give a boxer of going over to UFC and winning a fight. Not alot.
Thats how the discussion startded but other people said that a boxer could go to UFC an win but not the other way round. That is why we are at this point.

Ray Mercer beat former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia with 1 punch

Sylvia was a fat slob by that time but Mercer also got pummeled by Kimbo Slice.

Yes Sylvia was a fat slob but Ray Mercer is like 50 years old FFS!

Vitali Klitschko would beat down Brock Lesnar....it wouldn't be close. Brock like most dumb wrestlers would stand up, get nailed on the chin and THEN go for the takedown. Only vs Vitali if you get nailed on the chin and he's wearing 4 oz gloves I highly doubt you'll be doing anything other than counting stars.

Vitali vs Overreem might be different as Alistar has a diverse skill set and is virtually the same size as Vitali....doubt he punches as good, btu the kicks and knees would make it tough.

MMA fighters have horrible boxing techniques FACT...bar maybe Jens Pulver who actually boxed a bit, I have yet to see MMA fighters grasp the very basic simple 'Boxing 101' techniques such as throwing a straight punch, keeping your chin down, bringing your hands back to guard, or avoiding punches using something other than "luck".

I don't like MMA, I never will, it's just the next evolution fo Toughman competitions

[Leighton]

Actually it was MMA fighters going into BOXING

I know. And I would give them the same chance of suddenly going over to boxing and winning a fight as I would give a boxer of going over to UFC and winning a fight. Not alot.
Thats how the discussion startded but other people said that a boxer could go to UFC an win but not the other way round. That is why we are at this point.

Ray Mercer beat former UFC Heavyweight Champion Tim Sylvia with 1 punch

Sylvia was a fat slob by that time but Mercer also got pummeled by Kimbo Slice.

Yes Sylvia was a fat slob but Ray Mercer is like 50 years old FFS!

Vitali Klitschko would beat down Brock Lesnar....it wouldn't be close. Brock like most dumb wrestlers would stand up, get nailed on the chin and THEN go for the takedown. Only vs Vitali if you get nailed on the chin and he's wearing 4 oz gloves I highly doubt you'll be doing anything other than counting stars.

Vitali vs Overreem might be different as Alistar has a diverse skill set and is virtually the same size as Vitali....doubt he punches as good, btu the kicks and knees would make it tough.

MMA fighters have horrible boxing techniques FACT...bar maybe Jens Pulver who actually boxed a bit, I have yet to see MMA fighters grasp the very basic simple 'Boxing 101' techniques such as throwing a straight punch, keeping your chin down, bringing your hands back to guard, or avoiding punches using something other than "luck".

I don't like MMA, I never will, it's just the next evolution fo Toughman competitions

Brock would probably only get hit if Vitali had the skill to stuff his takedown. It is not an easy thing. You have to make sure you get yourself in the right stance. Anticipate the attack. In the clinch get your underhooks in. Have great balance when the guy grabs your legs. Learn how to avoid sweeps. When on your back learn how to sweep or be able to manouver yourself to wall walk. Or if on your back learn submissions like the triangle choke hold.
Your legs need to have alot of strength to be able to sweep off your back.
If he is on top he will need to posture up correctly and get the punches off without being caught in a submission or getting sweeped etc. A good grapler could do this all day to someone who deos not know the ground game. A good example of this is Nogera. He will pull guard and submit people on his back on purpose. He is passed it now but was in his day, very dangerous.
Now maybe a good boxer has a better chance against a UFC fighter who does not know the ground game.
But there is still alot of different moves for him to avoid. Elbows, Knees. Grappling techniques. We all know the Klits dont like to fight uip close.
I still think you put one fighter into the other sport either way. They will get found out very quickly. If they did not take the time before hand to learn the game of either sport and put in alot of hours. They would not be winning alot of fights.