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    Default Re: Pacquiao Vs Bradley

    I'm looking forward to Pacquiao - Bradley, I imagine it will be for Pac's WBO welterweight strap, but both pugs will likely weigh less than 147 @ the weigh-in. Pac will probably score a KD or 2, and win a clear cut UD. I don't however see Bradley getting knocked out because he'll have his track shoes on.

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    I worry about PAC getting cut or not getting off his shots because Bradley's too close and smothers PAC with his own shots on the inside. This fight worries me a bit.
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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    Bradley has won all his fights easily. He is awkward and fast. Could smother Pac and will probably not slow down that much throughout the fight. Cotto has good skills but that is what he uses, his boxing skills.
    Which in comparison to Mayweathers skills they are amateurish.

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    Cant see Pacquiao losing this fight but i said that about Marquez but should be a really intresting fight cant wait for this one Bradley im sure will ask a few questions,he is one very awkward customer.But still i think Pac Man will have too much for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Vs Bradley

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leighton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    This is a quote from Doug Fisher's Monday Mailbag from Ring Magazine (owned by Golden Boy):
    "Most of my peers view Pacquiao-Bradley as a more competitive fight than Cotto-Mayweather. They might be right, but I doubt it will be as entertaining. And I agree with you that Bradley’s head (coupled with his short stature and in-and-out movement) will be a problem for Pacquiao." (emphasis added)

    Here is boxingtalk.com's Tommy Canz on the Miguel Cotto v. Floyd Mayweather match-up: BOXINGTALK : FIVE OBVIOUS REASONS WHY COTTO HAS MINIMAL CHANCE AGAINST MAYWEATHER

    I can't find the quote right now but Fat Dan Rafael from espn.com agrees with that assessment too.

    You're in the minority actually that believes Cotto is a more competitive fight than Bradley.

    Another opinion of a mailbag I follow, Steve Edwards at Boxingtalk.com (I recommend reading his mailbags if you get the chance as I find him very insightful): http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=22841 - saying there that Pacquiao has his hands full.

    http://thesweetscience.com/news/arti...for-mayweather
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 02-13-2012 at 07:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Also, Floyd has opened up as a -700 to Cotto +500 and Pacquiao has opened up as a -370 to Bradley at +310.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    I worry about PAC getting cut or not getting off his shots because Bradley's too close and smothers PAC with his own shots on the inside. This fight worries me a bit.
    That don't worry me at all. Fuck no! Lol. Pac has been smothered/mauled by come-forward fighters [bigger than Bradley] before.

    lf Bradley choose to slug it out with Pacquiao like most of you here think, then chances are we will see a ko win for Pac.

    l don't see that happening in early rounds though. Not even in mid rounds. Well that depends. The early they test each other's power, the earlier we'll see shootout.

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