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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.
    l agree with pretty much what you're saying except the highlighted part.

    So you mean Agapito Sanchez was a rougher fighter than Hatton? The Sanchez fight was ages ago. Do you think Roach and team Pac will allow similar thing to happen?

    Lol. They're gonna request a referre that will microcheck Bradley's ass bruh.
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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.
    l agree with pretty much what you're saying except the highlighted part.

    So you mean Agapito Sanchez was a rougher fighter than Hatton? The Sanchez fight was ages ago. Do you think Roach and team Pac will allow similar thing to happen?

    Lol. They're gonna request a referre that will microcheck Bradley's ass bruh.
    I believe Agapito Sanchez is a better comparison than Ricky Hatton, and Pacquiao had some trouble there. Pacquiao has improved since that fight, but Bradley is also better than Agapito. I favor Pacquiao, but Bradley will make this tough. If he blows Bradley out of the water, I would be impressed.

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.
    l agree with pretty much what you're saying except the highlighted part.

    So you mean Agapito Sanchez was a rougher fighter than Hatton? The Sanchez fight was ages ago. Do you think Roach and team Pac will allow similar thing to happen?

    Lol. They're gonna request a referre that will microcheck Bradley's ass bruh.
    I believe Agapito Sanchez is a better comparison than Ricky Hatton, and Pacquiao had some trouble there. Pacquiao has improved since that fight, but Bradley is also better than Agapito. I favor Pacquiao, but Bradley will make this tough. If he blows Bradley out of the water, I would be impressed.
    Sorry dude but if Alexander and Peterson are the best names he's fought he's some doodoo

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.
    l agree with pretty much what you're saying except the highlighted part.

    So you mean Agapito Sanchez was a rougher fighter than Hatton? The Sanchez fight was ages ago. Do you think Roach and team Pac will allow similar thing to happen?

    Lol. They're gonna request a referre that will microcheck Bradley's ass bruh.
    I believe Agapito Sanchez is a better comparison than Ricky Hatton, and Pacquiao had some trouble there. Pacquiao has improved since that fight, but Bradley is also better than Agapito. I favor Pacquiao, but Bradley will make this tough. If he blows Bradley out of the water, I would be impressed.
    Sorry dude but if Alexander and Peterson are the best names he's fought he's some doodoo
    Ima have to agree with rantcantrat and infere that your opinion is doodoo

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    bradley is a good well drilled and skilled fighter, and also quite awkward.However, correct me if im wrong, but from what i've seen he is a come foward fighter albeit cautiously so. Which will suit pacquiao. On previous form,he also isn't going to be constantly in the pocket with pacquiao to test his supposed lack of infighting ability or out and out counterpunching from the outside. I also don't think he's that fast. I don't see him beating pacquiao.
    Saying that, he is one of better opponents that pacquiao could have fought.

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    Disagree think Bradley is a blown up light welter, who is a very good fighter but not as dangerous as Cotto. Floyd is going up in weight, Cotto has looked impressive in his victories and he is very experienced. If he sticks to a game plan, he has the speed, punch and versatility to cause Floyd more problems than Bradley would do against Pacquiau.
    What is Pacquiao then? They're the same size. Pacquiao and Bradley will come in at almost the exact same weight without any hydration issues. Size isn't an issue here.

    Bradley is in his prime. He's undefeated and he's fast. Cotto is passed his prime, he's been knocked out twice, and he's not very fast anymore. Cotto isnt the Cotto from 2007. It's unfortunate, but he's not. Why do you think he hasn't been matched with any other top 5 junior middleweight? He's got a punchers chance here at most. His style has also changed from a puncher-boxer to a boxer-puncher. He hasn't fought like 2007 Cotto in a while. That works against Margarito, but against Mayweather?

    There are many ways for Bradley to win this fight. Maul for the first few rounds. Box for the next few. Move for the last few. Pacquiao hasn't stopped anyone since 2009 despite what his accusers say. It's possible he has he lost a step. In addition, Bradley has got some beast in him. Pacquiao should be favored, but Bradley is a live dog here.
    Your attempts at feigning impartiality make me laugh. I chuckle more about it when you accuse me of being biased and you just made this post.

    You are not seriously trying to convince yourself that this is a better and tougher fight than Floyd vs Cotto will be at 154 are you? Anybody else who's not on Manny's payroll feel the same way, out of curiosity??
    Bradley imo is a much better fight. Cotto was totally whipped by Pac in there fight. What makes you think he has a chance against Mayweather. Its technical fighter vs technical fighter. Mayweathers technical skills make Cottos look crap. Cotto will be the bigger man but not by much. That will not bother Mayweather in the slightest. Bradley is very awkward and has won all of his fights with relitive ease.
    I would much rather see Bradley vs floyd/Pac than cotto against them. Bradley is undefeated and has hardly ever been close to losing a fight. What more can you ask for in an opponent.
    Who has Bradley fought that could come even close to beating him? Junior Witter? Alexander who got a gift against Matthyse? Old ass Casamayor? Maybe Peterson is the only argument that can be made.

    Cottos resume is much better and I like how you forgot to mention that Pac beat him drained at 145. (and refused to fight him at 150 even though thats the fight he preferred? Obviously HE sees Cotto as dangerous)

    As far as Floyd technically makes him look like shit, wrong again. Cotto has tremendous technical skills. Floyd wasnt very technical at all against Ortiz. He relies more on being awkward defensively and offensively now. But he obviously has technique to allow him to get away with it. Technically, they're around the same. Floyd has better speed and reach.

    Again, wrong about the size difference. Cotto will come in around 160 on fight night. When Floyd fought Oscar he came in at 147 on fight night. Thats 13lbs..that is a big difference.

    I said earlier the Pac/Bradley fight is a good one. No doubt interesting but by no means is it bigger, better or tougher than Floyd Cotto. If it becomes any of the above, it says more about Pacquiao not being as good as people claim IMO but I fully expect Pac to do a job on him.
    Completely agree^^ PAC vs Bradley is no where near as Floyd vs Cotto. Bradley hasn't fought any good names and when he fought Alexander when they were bothe undefeated I thought it would be a great fight even though I've never heard of them. Turns out it sucked because they're both not good enough to compete with elite boxers. Once again Cotto was drained, had no trainer, his father had recently passed and now that they want to fight him again they want him to come back to 147 when he's been fighting at 154?? BS!! It made me so glad that mayweather made this fight at the proper weight shows more about him. Only thing that kind of annoys me is that I want Cotto to win but I don't because I'm sure I know what the PACTARDS will have to say if he wins. "PAC destroyed Cotto and Cotto beat mayweather ofcourse PAC will beat mayweather" etc. then Cotto probably won't get a rematch because there's "nothing" to prove. But they'll never say the diffrence in the circumstances they fought under.
    (1) To be clear, there are more "Flomos" on this forum than "Pactards." By far. For me, I like both guys in the ring. It boggles my mind that aren't more people out there who share a similar view. But, hey...

    (2) You're 100% wrong for contending that Bradley isn't any good. Bradley dominated Lamont Peterson and Devon Alexander. Both are good boxers. It's almost ridiculous to even state that opinion. Are you joking?

    (3) Floyd will dominate Cotto. Cotto has NO shot. Don't buy into the Al Haymon spin that Cotto will be more effective at 154. Come on, really? What success has Cotto had against junior middleweights? In a relatively deep division with some dangerous guys, who has Cotto fought? An one-legged Yuri Foreman? Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Cotto fan, and Cotto is a future hall of famer, but his best days are behind him. He's been fighting strictly for a pay check for a long time. This is no exception. This fight should have happened 3-4 years ago.

    (4) Bradley is much more competitive against Pacquiao than Cotto is against Mayweather although Pacquiao rightly should be favored. Watch the Agapito Sanchez-Pacquiao fight. You'll see why Bradley has a shot.

    (5) Remember when I told you prior to the Victor Ortiz-Floyd Mayweather and the Pacquiao-JMM fights that Mayweather would dominate Victor and JMM would give Pacquiao a tough battle? I even created a thread with a poll about who was the tougher opponent. Trust me on this one: Bradley is the tougher opponent just like Marquez was.
    l agree with pretty much what you're saying except the highlighted part.

    So you mean Agapito Sanchez was a rougher fighter than Hatton? The Sanchez fight was ages ago. Do you think Roach and team Pac will allow similar thing to happen?

    Lol. They're gonna request a referre that will microcheck Bradley's ass bruh.
    I believe Agapito Sanchez is a better comparison than Ricky Hatton, and Pacquiao had some trouble there. Pacquiao has improved since that fight, but Bradley is also better than Agapito. I favor Pacquiao, but Bradley will make this tough. If he blows Bradley out of the water, I would be impressed.
    Sorry dude but if Alexander and Peterson are the best names he's fought he's some doodoo
    Ima have to agree with rantcantrat and infere that your opinion is doodoo
    ok

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