Paul Williams vs. Nobuhiro Ishida - Saturday night fight thread

[Rantcatrat]

Williams is trying to take the backdoor and convince everyone he's back in devistating fashion here, thinking Ishida is hitting him with nerd ball punches. With his limited exposure and considering how Kirkland has rebounded to drive a truck over undefeated Angulo it's really a semi everything to lose, very little reward for him. Is it a title elimination fight Even if it goes rounds which I think it will Williams catches shots ugly and often now. I'm picking Ishida to beat him.

Wow. Big statement, Spicoli. You don't feel strong enough about that to sig bet, do you? Is it a title eliminator? For what belt?

[Manos de Piedra]

Nice to see Williams is back, now lets see what he has left but he should win this fight with out much problem.

[Rantcatrat]

Spicoli, I guess you may be right. Williams is ranked #3 and Ishida is ranked #2. Mundine is the international champ and is ranked #1. Trout holds the WBA belt at 154. Cotto is the super champion until Mayweather beats him. I guess that means the winner here is the mandatory for Austin Trout or Miguel Cotto?http://wbanews.com/artman/uploads/1/...ERO_2012_1.pdf

[Spicoli]

Williams is trying to take the backdoor and convince everyone he's back in devistating fashion here, thinking Ishida is hitting him with nerd ball punches. With his limited exposure and considering how Kirkland has rebounded to drive a truck over undefeated Angulo it's really a semi everything to lose, very little reward for him. Is it a title elimination fight Even if it goes rounds which I think it will Williams catches shots ugly and often now. I'm picking Ishida to beat him.

Wow. Big statement, Spicoli. You don't feel strong enough about that to sig bet, do you? Is it a title eliminator? For what belt?

Absolutley. Haven't had a sig in a long time, fun stuff. Whatever you like time wise....well I'm just wondering for a 'opponent' HBO turned down previously why pick match now? I don't know where these guys are ranked in the alphabet soup groups?

Edit! Loving this slow azz I phone. Just saw your last post with ranking Rant, thanks bud.

[Mars_ax]

Bump... this card starts @ 10:00 PM ET here in North America on Showtime Saturday, so that means 3:00 or 4:00 AM across the pond.

[Mars_ax]

Bump... this card starts @ 10:00 PM ET here in North America on Showtime Saturday, so that means 3:00 or 4:00 AM across the pond.

This card starts in a little less than 3 hours.

[captainanddew]

is PW declining? Probably.
But Ishida wasn't known as a puncher prior to the Kirkland fight. And PW's kryptonite has been southpaws: Quintana, Martinez, Lara!!!! Ishida isn't a southpaw.

I think PW has enough left to win this fight, but wouldn't be shocked if he lost.

[Mars_ax]

is PW declining? Probably.
But Ishida wasn't known as a puncher prior to the Kirkland fight. And PW's kryptonite has been southpaws: Quintana, Martinez, Lara!!!! Ishida isn't a southpaw.

I think PW has enough left to win this fight, but wouldn't be shocked if he lost.

Yo Capt, where you been lately bro? Good to see you.

BTW, I believe Williams wins tonight, but i'll be pulling for the Jap. (I was born there )

[Mar]

Williams will destroy this guy. A couple of losses doesn't take away how people wouldn't even fight the guy yesterday, just like one win doesn't make ishida crap. Ishida will get sparked quick

[Mars_ax]

Williams will destroy this guy. A couple of losses doesn't take away how people wouldn't even fight the guy yesterday, just like one win doesn't make ishida crap. Ishida will get sparked quick

Normally i'd agree, but Williams has looked like shit in his last couple fights, so we shall see grasshopper.

[El Kabong]

I want to see how Williams reacts to getting hit again...guys who get blasted out cold don't usually regain their ability to take a punch.

Tavoris Cloud will smash through this Campillo dude...Cloud will press the action, land the harder cleaner shots, and eventually he'll stop him. After this fight Cloud-Pascal or Cloud-Dawson/Hopkins needs to happen! The only guy I see that could give Cloud big issues is Ismial Syllakh who is a very quality fighter and will get his chance at some belts soon as well.

[Diane]

Never was a fan of Williams. I think he was overhyped because of his size in the division, and his ability to throw a lot of punches. With that said, I think this is an easy fight for him. Ishida was in the right place at the right time to beat an out of shape Kirkland, and I don't see him winning.

As a reminder to those of you who are watching the fights on Showtime. The main card with Williams/Ishida & Cloud/Campillo fights are on regular Showtime, and the network is starting something new by showing some of the other undercard fights on Showtime Extreme. So the Arreola/Molina fight, and another fight will be on Showtime Extreme starting at 8:00 ET.

[Mars_ax]

Never was a fan of Williams. I think he was overhyped because of his size in the division, and his ability to throw a lot of punches. With that said, I think this is an easy fight for him. Ishida was in the right place at the right time to beat an out of shape Kirkland, and I don't see him winning.

As a reminder to those of you who are watching the fights on Showtime. The main card with Williams/Ishida & Cloud/Campillo fights are on regular Showtime, and the network is starting something new by showing some of the other undercard fights on Showtime Extreme. So the Arreola/Molina fight, and another fight will be on Showtime Extreme starting at 8:00 ET.

That's in about 30 minutes, thanks Diane.

[shza]

I want to see how Williams reacts to getting hit again...guys who get blasted out cold don't usually regain their ability to take a punch.

Tavoris Cloud will smash through this Campillo dude...Cloud will press the action, land the harder cleaner shots, and eventually he'll stop him. After this fight Cloud-Pascal or Cloud-Dawson/Hopkins needs to happen! The only guy I see that could give Cloud big issues is Ismial Syllakh who is a very quality fighter and will get his chance at some belts soon as well.

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I can't root for Williams after his constant "what has Lara done to 'earn' a rematch with me?" crap. I'm not terribly interested in this fight but I'm glad to see Ishida get some reward for the Kirkland result, fluke though it may be.

[El Kabong]

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I'm not so certain Cloud would get beaten badly by Dawson or Hopkins. #1 Bernard is always getting older and a Prime pressure fighter that has solid power in both hands could make him age quickly #2 Dawson lacks a killer instinct and routinely gives up any kind of height and reach advantage...it hasn't caught up with him too much yet, but it will.

Cloud is a hard worker and just a strong fella....I think he'll do extremely well given the state of this division......providing he can land a big fight