Paul Williams vs. Nobuhiro Ishida - Saturday night fight thread

[Mar]

Williams will destroy this guy. A couple of losses doesn't take away how people wouldn't even fight the guy yesterday, just like one win doesn't make ishida crap. Ishida will get sparked quick

[Mars_ax]

Williams will destroy this guy. A couple of losses doesn't take away how people wouldn't even fight the guy yesterday, just like one win doesn't make ishida crap. Ishida will get sparked quick

Normally i'd agree, but Williams has looked like shit in his last couple fights, so we shall see grasshopper.

[El Kabong]

I want to see how Williams reacts to getting hit again...guys who get blasted out cold don't usually regain their ability to take a punch.

Tavoris Cloud will smash through this Campillo dude...Cloud will press the action, land the harder cleaner shots, and eventually he'll stop him. After this fight Cloud-Pascal or Cloud-Dawson/Hopkins needs to happen! The only guy I see that could give Cloud big issues is Ismial Syllakh who is a very quality fighter and will get his chance at some belts soon as well.

[Diane]

Never was a fan of Williams. I think he was overhyped because of his size in the division, and his ability to throw a lot of punches. With that said, I think this is an easy fight for him. Ishida was in the right place at the right time to beat an out of shape Kirkland, and I don't see him winning.

As a reminder to those of you who are watching the fights on Showtime. The main card with Williams/Ishida & Cloud/Campillo fights are on regular Showtime, and the network is starting something new by showing some of the other undercard fights on Showtime Extreme. So the Arreola/Molina fight, and another fight will be on Showtime Extreme starting at 8:00 ET.

[Mars_ax]

Never was a fan of Williams. I think he was overhyped because of his size in the division, and his ability to throw a lot of punches. With that said, I think this is an easy fight for him. Ishida was in the right place at the right time to beat an out of shape Kirkland, and I don't see him winning.

As a reminder to those of you who are watching the fights on Showtime. The main card with Williams/Ishida & Cloud/Campillo fights are on regular Showtime, and the network is starting something new by showing some of the other undercard fights on Showtime Extreme. So the Arreola/Molina fight, and another fight will be on Showtime Extreme starting at 8:00 ET.

That's in about 30 minutes, thanks Diane.

[shza]

I want to see how Williams reacts to getting hit again...guys who get blasted out cold don't usually regain their ability to take a punch.

Tavoris Cloud will smash through this Campillo dude...Cloud will press the action, land the harder cleaner shots, and eventually he'll stop him. After this fight Cloud-Pascal or Cloud-Dawson/Hopkins needs to happen! The only guy I see that could give Cloud big issues is Ismial Syllakh who is a very quality fighter and will get his chance at some belts soon as well.

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I can't root for Williams after his constant "what has Lara done to 'earn' a rematch with me?" crap. I'm not terribly interested in this fight but I'm glad to see Ishida get some reward for the Kirkland result, fluke though it may be.

[El Kabong]

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I'm not so certain Cloud would get beaten badly by Dawson or Hopkins. #1 Bernard is always getting older and a Prime pressure fighter that has solid power in both hands could make him age quickly #2 Dawson lacks a killer instinct and routinely gives up any kind of height and reach advantage...it hasn't caught up with him too much yet, but it will.

Cloud is a hard worker and just a strong fella....I think he'll do extremely well given the state of this division......providing he can land a big fight

[Spicoli]

I think Ishida is being seriously slept on here, on the same scale that people think that the damage and drain done to Williams will just vanish against a capable guy who know what it's like to be brought in as a soft touch and not freeze after being rushed and I think Williams has seriously slipped, his heart is stedfast but he gets hit clean at a ugly rate. All things considered this is a good crossroads match and while you gotta be careful not to root for the underdog for the sake of doing so, I will not be shocked at all to see Ishida pepper the hell out of a one step behind Williams for that 12 round win.

[Mars_ax]

I think Ishida is being seriously slept on here, on the same scale that people think that the damage and drain done to Williams will just vanish against a capable guy who know what it's like to be brought in as a soft touch and not freeze after being rushed and I think Williams has seriously slipped, his heart is stedfast but he gets hit clean at a ugly rate. All things considered this is a good crossroads match and while you gotta be careful not to root for the underdog for the sake of doing so, I will not be shocked at all to see Ishida pepper the hell out of a one step behind Williams for that 12 round win.

That's possible, I noticed at the weigh-in that Ishida is nearly as tall as Williams, so Williams won't have his usual height advantage. The thing is, Ishida's win over Kirkland aside, he doesn't have much power and P-Will has a decent chin, so if Ishida wins it would likely be by decision. After seeing Williams win that shit decision over Lara in his last fight, i'd love to see Ishida find lightening in a bottle again, and knock him out.

[No Contest]

I like Cloud, he's a monster. Williams is still getting doubters. I got Williams
in a shutout.

[Rantcatrat]

Williams will destroy this guy. A couple of losses doesn't take away how people wouldn't even fight the guy yesterday, just like one win doesn't make ishida crap. Ishida will get sparked quick

Normally i'd agree, but Williams has looked like shit in his last couple fights, so we shall see grasshopper.

Let's be fair, the guy was knocked out by Sergio Martinez, and in his next fight, took on a tough competitor in Erislandy Lara. Lara may be the most avoided guy in that division right now. Also, it wasn't like the fight with Lara wasn't a fun fight to watch. Frankly, when has Williams not been in an entertaining fight?

With regard to Cloud, I believe he can be outboxed. On that note, Campillo can box. The problem is that Campillo has negative power. With his lack of power, will Campillo be able to keep Cloud off of him for a full fight? I actually thought Mack did a decent job for the first few rounds, outboxing Cloud, and keep the fight at a distance, but Cloud's relentless pressure, and power punching, eventually took over. I predict the same sort of thing on Saturday. It's a good fight, however.

How good is the guy Cris Arreola is facing, Eric Molina?