Paul Williams vs. Nobuhiro Ishida - Saturday night fight thread

[shza]

I want to see how Williams reacts to getting hit again...guys who get blasted out cold don't usually regain their ability to take a punch.

Tavoris Cloud will smash through this Campillo dude...Cloud will press the action, land the harder cleaner shots, and eventually he'll stop him. After this fight Cloud-Pascal or Cloud-Dawson/Hopkins needs to happen! The only guy I see that could give Cloud big issues is Ismial Syllakh who is a very quality fighter and will get his chance at some belts soon as well.

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I can't root for Williams after his constant "what has Lara done to 'earn' a rematch with me?" crap. I'm not terribly interested in this fight but I'm glad to see Ishida get some reward for the Kirkland result, fluke though it may be.

[El Kabong]

Eh, I think Dawson and Hopkins both beat Cloud by pretty wide scores. Cloud/Pascal would be a very good fight though.

I'm not so certain Cloud would get beaten badly by Dawson or Hopkins. #1 Bernard is always getting older and a Prime pressure fighter that has solid power in both hands could make him age quickly #2 Dawson lacks a killer instinct and routinely gives up any kind of height and reach advantage...it hasn't caught up with him too much yet, but it will.

Cloud is a hard worker and just a strong fella....I think he'll do extremely well given the state of this division......providing he can land a big fight

[Spicoli]

I think Ishida is being seriously slept on here, on the same scale that people think that the damage and drain done to Williams will just vanish against a capable guy who know what it's like to be brought in as a soft touch and not freeze after being rushed and I think Williams has seriously slipped, his heart is stedfast but he gets hit clean at a ugly rate. All things considered this is a good crossroads match and while you gotta be careful not to root for the underdog for the sake of doing so, I will not be shocked at all to see Ishida pepper the hell out of a one step behind Williams for that 12 round win.

[Mars_ax]

I think Ishida is being seriously slept on here, on the same scale that people think that the damage and drain done to Williams will just vanish against a capable guy who know what it's like to be brought in as a soft touch and not freeze after being rushed and I think Williams has seriously slipped, his heart is stedfast but he gets hit clean at a ugly rate. All things considered this is a good crossroads match and while you gotta be careful not to root for the underdog for the sake of doing so, I will not be shocked at all to see Ishida pepper the hell out of a one step behind Williams for that 12 round win.

That's possible, I noticed at the weigh-in that Ishida is nearly as tall as Williams, so Williams won't have his usual height advantage. The thing is, Ishida's win over Kirkland aside, he doesn't have much power and P-Will has a decent chin, so if Ishida wins it would likely be by decision. After seeing Williams win that shit decision over Lara in his last fight, i'd love to see Ishida find lightening in a bottle again, and knock him out.

[Spicoli]

I think Ishida is being seriously slept on here, on the same scale that people think that the damage and drain done to Williams will just vanish against a capable guy who know what it's like to be brought in as a soft touch and not freeze after being rushed and I think Williams has seriously slipped, his heart is stedfast but he gets hit clean at a ugly rate. All things considered this is a good crossroads match and while you gotta be careful not to root for the underdog for the sake of doing so, I will not be shocked at all to see Ishida pepper the hell out of a one step behind Williams for that 12 round win.

That's possible, I noticed at the weigh-in that Ishida is nearly as tall as Williams, so Williams won't have his usual height advantage. The thing is, Ishida's win over Kirkland aside, he doesn't have much power and P-Will has a decent chin, so if Ishida wins it would likely be by decision. After seeing Williams win that shit decision over Lara in his last fight, i'd love to see Ishida find lightening in a bottle again, and knock him out.

Yeh thats the only way I see it could go, dec to him. If Williams is off that aggresive step and not pressing with volume ala the Phillips fight (great body work) Ishida has some good hands and shifty in there and might suprise. He is very live. I dont think you really have to hit the last version of Paul hard to beat him...just hit often. I watched his 4 fights prior to Kirkland win and dude is quick, flashy...almost too much at times... and despite low ko percentage he can fight and has some slicing type shots. That Alvarez loss was a bad call to me. It'll be up to Williams to have zero respect for him early on and hope his face holds up while trying to break that body in half. Lots of scenarios and maybe I'll look a total fool, wouldnt be the first time but pulling for the Ishida win, think its def there.

Ok shutting up now

[Diane]

Arreola looks in good shape for him. He lost his back boobs.

[Diane]

Ok is this on time delay for everyone else? I don't want to post spoilers if it is.

[No Contest]

I like Cloud, he's a monster. Williams is still getting doubters. I got Williams
in a shutout.