Anyone still think Cloud would beat Dawson or Hopkins?

[Mars_ax]

Hopkins is old as dirt. He could fall off a cliff overnight.

Dawson should be able to jab, straight left, and then turn Cloud all night. Cloud would have to get to Dawson in the first couple of rounds and hurt Dawson.

Hell you say, Hop is fresh as a daisy.
Seriously, if Hopkins were 60 he'd have enough left in the tank to school a chump like Cloud.

[johnsebastianmiran]

No!

[TigerFan]

First off, he should give Campillo a rematch. If that doesn't happen, then I wouldn't mind seeing him in with Pascal or Shumenov. Sillakh also..but he's more of a high risk low reward fighter...so I doubt that happens any time soon.

And to answer the thread question - No

[Taeth]

People seem to love these one dimensional tough bangers, but again and again quality has proven superior to brute force, and both Hopkins and Dawson are of higher quality.

[Kev]

I've never seen anything special about Cloud whatsoever. Never understood what Lyle saw in him

I don't think he'd beat Jean Pascal.

[Nameless]

Perhaps it was just a night off or a matter of style, I'd like to see him again against an interesting prospect before making a final statement on the matter.

[killersheep]

To be honest against Hopkins it all depends on Hopkins, he gets inactive enough in some situations he could lose on the cards and cry about being robbed.

As for Dawson, I don't think he has the mental toughness of Campillo and I think he could get shaken and stopped by Cloud, if he gets caught with some of the shots Campillo got caught with in the first round I don't know that he has the mental fortitude to go on offense right away as opposed to moving away.

[Mars_ax]

Perhaps it was just a night off or a matter of style, I'd like to see him again against an interesting prospect before making a final statement on the matter.

This is true, but Cloud lost a lot of credibility in the Campillo fight, he shouldn't still be the Champion. At this point I don't see Cloud defeating any of the top Lt. heavyweights, he's gonna have to prove that he's still a live dog.