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    Default Re: What's more important... who you beat or who you lost to?....

    Quote Originally Posted by 0james0 View Post
    Good question.
    You could go on with any great fighter, we don't care who they lost to, it's all about who they beat.
    Good point this actually!

    Ya take Hatton for example, got beat by the two best P4P fighters in the modern age, yet he gets battered from pillar to post by many on here for who he fought.
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    Default Re: What's more important... who you beat or who you lost to?....

    Good points, I phone won't do it justice right now but I'd also say that the when and the how rank right alongside. I mean how many times is a loss sighted and the first thing is well so an so was green...or he was shot. There is merit to both but not always. It's really all fight by fight, sometimes it's just glossed over in generalities. Add, I think fighting the best available, maxing yourself, regardless of being falling just short is heads above beating a hundred also rans and only proving your just good enough to sit at the head of their table.
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    Everyone automatically looks at the fighters loss record, so I think that matters more. It can depend when they fought the fighters they lost too. Ali lost to Berbick at the end of his career, should not be held against Ali.
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    Default Re: What's more important... who you beat or who you lost to?....

    Its who you beat for sure. No question.

    No one cares that Vitali loss to Ross Purity or Chris Byrd, not now anyway. His wins have put those defeats in the rear view mirror.

    When people think about Aaron Pryor they don't immediately look at him losing to an unknown fighter at the end of his career.

    Duran is not remembered for losing to Kirkland Laing, or Pat Lawler.

    Tex Cobb is remembered for fighting his ass off against Larry Holmes, and beating Earnie Shavers. He is not remembered for being KO'd by a journeymen.

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    In Tex Cobb's case I guess he is remembered for a loss actually to Holmes
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    Another thing to add. Why do heavyweights have the exclusive right to dismiss a knockout loss just because they are a heavyweight?

    Hear it time and time again, 'This is heavyweight boxing, only takes one' etc

    Why does 'This is light middleweight boxing' not have the same ring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Its who you beat for sure. No question.

    No one cares that Vitali loss to Ross Purity or Chris Byrd, not now anyway. His wins have put those defeats in the rear view mirror.

    When people think about Aaron Pryor they don't immediately look at him losing to an unknown fighter at the end of his career.

    Duran is not remembered for losing to Kirkland Laing, or Pat Lawler.

    Tex Cobb is remembered for fighting his ass off against Larry Holmes, and beating Earnie Shavers. He is not remembered for being KO'd by a journeymen.

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    Default Re: What's more important... who you beat or who you lost to?....

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Its who you beat for sure. No question.

    No one cares that Vitali loss to Ross Purity or Chris Byrd, not now anyway. His wins have put those defeats in the rear view mirror.

    When people think about Aaron Pryor they don't immediately look at him losing to an unknown fighter at the end of his career.

    Duran is not remembered for losing to Kirkland Laing, or Pat Lawler.

    Tex Cobb is remembered for fighting his ass off against Larry Holmes, and beating Earnie Shavers. He is not remembered for being KO'd by a journeymen.

    A fighter's wins define him, not his losses.
    That was Wlad
    Same difference

    Wlad has lost to a good number of guys then early in his career.

    Damn near lost to Davarryl Williamson too.
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    Default Re: What's more important... who you beat or who you lost to?....

    It's definitely who you beat, then who you lost to but to a lesser extent. In a losing situation it's more how you lost, was it a fighting effort or simply quitting when the going got tough.
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