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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    If not Julio Ceaser Chavez then Eric Morales.
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Morales for me too, love this guys style.

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If not Julio Ceaser Chavez then Eric Morales.
    Chavez was a brawler or a boxer/puncher at best, he hardly was a tactical fighter, same goes for Morales (who obviously is my favorite fighter), I'm talking about the greatest technical fighter, who used strategy to win his fights rather than outlasting him

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If not Julio Ceaser Chavez then Eric Morales.
    Chavez was a brawler or a boxer/puncher at best, he hardly was a tactical fighter, same goes for Morales (who obviously is my favorite fighter), I'm talking about the greatest technical fighter, who used strategy to win his fights rather than outlasting him
    Morales for his height and reach certainly could box but agreed did not use it enough. Then the obvious answer would be Finito Lopez.
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.
    if Chavez hadn't possessed the granite chin and Football helmet of a head of his he would have had been stopped by plenty of the men he faced, his chin made up for his lacking technical skill, i'm not saying that he had no skill or boxing ability cause it's obvious that he did, but there are other fighters who were/are leaps and bounds better from a technical standpoint than Chavez, for instance Lopez, Chavez may be the greatest Mexican fighter but IMO he's hardly the greatest technician to come out of Mexico

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time
    ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time
    ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes
    Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

    I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Ricardo Lopez is definitely the most talented technician I have seen. Unfortunately the opposition level at strawweight was low. But the way he manhandled most of his opponents is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time
    ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes
    Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

    I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that
    wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

    Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time
    ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes
    Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

    I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that
    wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

    Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days
    Another question I have for Morales is " How did it feel to get in there with David Diaz and come out a loser "

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Marquez is tactically quite good for a Mexican but I wouldnt say he was the best because he wouldnt have got outpointed by guys like Chris John and Freddie Norwood.
    I saw Barrera on Saturday and am seeing him again tomorrow so I can ask him then.
    obviously Barrera would be ruled out cause if he was the greatest technician he wouldn't have been beaten by the likes of a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao or Junior Jones, and wouldn't have gone life and death with Juarez

    as for John he's best known for being a very technically gifted fighter, which is what compensates for his lack of power, and Norwood was an undefeated fighter at that point

    I didnt put Barrera in there. You did cuz you got defensive when I ruled out the man who couldnt beat Norwood

    I'll see Barrera tomorrow and ask him how it felt beating Morales for a second time
    ask him how it felt to have Morales beat not one but two men whom he himself couldn't get it done against, although he was given a rematch against both , and how he feels that it was MORALES and not him who became the FIRST Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes
    Handed a title against a bum after being owned by a Kotelnik leftover? Yeah your the only person the world that thinks that paper title means anything.

    I'll ask Marco how it feels to get KO'd in 3 rounds whilst winking and quitting and in the process shaming your entire nation . . . . . on second thoughts I'll have to wait until I meet Morales to ask that
    wasn't it you who was trying to play up Barrera's attempt at an interim title as a go at an ACTUAL world title? lol I can look up the damn thread cause it has to be somewhere on here lol

    Morales might have quit against Manny but it wasn't any worse than Barrera running from him for 12 rounds with his dick between his legs, speaking of which, who has Barrera fought since getting the blood bath against Khan? name one decent opponent, oh right he's fought two bums and struggled against one of them as for Morales he made Maidana (the same guy who should have got a W against Khan and Kotelnik) fight for his life....with one eye, and is set to fight Garcia who's undefeated, 12 yrs younger, and actually ranked, unlike anyone Barrera is ever mentioned to be taking on these days
    Another question I have for Morales is " How did it feel to get in there with David Diaz and come out a loser "
    and his answer would be simple it would be something like this...



    here's the dvd cover for Barrera's rematch against Pacquiao...


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