Who is the greatest boxer to ever come out of Mexico?

[Master]

Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.

if Chavez hadn't possessed the granite chin and Football helmet of a head of his he would have had been stopped by plenty of the men he faced, his chin made up for his lacking technical skill, i'm not saying that he had no skill or boxing ability cause it's obvious that he did, but there are other fighters who were/are leaps and bounds better from a technical standpoint than Chavez, for instance Lopez, Chavez may be the greatest Mexican fighter but IMO he's hardly the greatest technician to come out of Mexico

The way he blocked and parried punches were beautiful to see. The way he set up his punches was awesome.

[outspoken]

J.M Marquez based on what he has accomplished and the competition he's fought. Finito Lopez Notable second.

[ElTerribleMorales]

J.M Marquez based on what he has accomplished and the competition he's fought. Finito Lopez Notable second.

I agree to a certain point cause I go back and forth in my own head, in terms of titles and opponents than yes it's Marquez, but in terms of sheer skill and ability IMO Lopez was the more talented of the two, he made it look easy, effortless, the man was a genius

[Spicoli]

Marquez especially early on in career is easily one of the best technicians I've ever seen from beginning to near end, he could be from Mars or Pluto and it would apply. Chavez with respect was not a 'brawler'. I'm no fan really but dude was a master at punch placement and combo technique. He gets slept on at light where he was a pretty sharp boxer.

Depends on what your looking for. Mexican fighters are stereotyped big time. Even Barrera went from straight comer but transformed in later years to very crafty all around boxer. One guy for me was Humberto Gonzalez. Pretty sure he was born south of the boarder. He was a devastating puncher with his ko losses all coming in near same dramatic fashion, but he was a sound boxer too. How he turned total boxer with blood streaming down his face to beat rival Carbajal not once, but twice still blows me away. Ok 2nd was debatable but what a transition in game plan. If your going pure defensive wiz how about a Miguel Canto! A rarity who made the ring his own dance stage. Ricardo Lopez right up there. Has to go down as one of the best thinkers and explosive combination hitters there was. Foot placement was amazing!

[armin]

Funny how this thread turned into a shitfest on two of the finest...but not knowing to much about the previous generations I say jmm

[GAME]

Funny how this thread turned into a shitfest on two of the finest

Yeah I apologise for that but once me and elterrible get started we are like 2 dogs fighting over a bone. I have great respect for both legends and post silly things for a reaction and provoke him into doing the same.

[X]

Just because somebody didn't box in a 'classical boxing' style, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be considered technical boxers.

He wasn't Mexican, but for example ..... Roberto Duran wasn't a 'boxer', but he had very very underrated boxing skills and his technique was solid as a rock. Barerra was a boxer/puncher who always got involved in wars ...... but the reason he wiped the floor with Naz was because his boxing technique was superior and it didnt buckle under pressure. Same for Chavez - he was a 'Mexican' fighter and he really redefined that genre - but everything he did was built of solid, professional and well trained high-discipline technique.

I'd agree that sanchez was the more recognised STYLIST, but arguably Chavez and Barrera are also up there for their boxing skills.

[Master]

Just because somebody didn't box in a 'classical boxing' style, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be considered technical boxers.

He wasn't Mexican, but for example ..... Roberto Duran wasn't a 'boxer', but he had very very underrated boxing skills and his technique was solid as a rock. Barerra was a boxer/puncher who always got involved in wars ...... but the reason he wiped the floor with Naz was because his boxing technique was superior and it didnt buckle under pressure. Same for Chavez - he was a 'Mexican' fighter and he really redefined that genre - but everything he did was built of solid, professional and well trained high-discipline technique.

I'd agree that sanchez was the more recognised STYLIST, but arguably Chavez and Barrera are also up there for their boxing skills.

Thank you!

[Violent Demise]

Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.

if Chavez hadn't possessed the granite chin and Football helmet of a head of his he would have had been stopped by plenty of the men he faced, his chin made up for his lacking technical skill, i'm not saying that he had no skill or boxing ability cause it's obvious that he did, but there are other fighters who were/are leaps and bounds better from a technical standpoint than Chavez, for instance Lopez, Chavez may be the greatest Mexican fighter but IMO he's hardly the greatest technician to come out of Mexico

Seems Chavez punishing Rosario and embarrising Camacho still stings

Just because somebody didn't box in a 'classical boxing' style, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be considered technical boxers.

He wasn't Mexican, but for example ..... Roberto Duran wasn't a 'boxer', but he had very very underrated boxing skills and his technique was solid as a rock. Barerra was a boxer/puncher who always got involved in wars ...... but the reason he wiped the floor with Naz was because his boxing technique was superior and it didnt buckle under pressure. Same for Chavez - he was a 'Mexican' fighter and he really redefined that genre - but everything he did was built of solid, professional and well trained high-discipline technique.

I'd agree that sanchez was the more recognised STYLIST, but arguably Chavez and Barrera are also up there for their boxing skills.

His father was Mexican

[ElTerribleMorales]

Chavez was a brilliant tactical fighter, especially at 130 and 135.

if Chavez hadn't possessed the granite chin and Football helmet of a head of his he would have had been stopped by plenty of the men he faced, his chin made up for his lacking technical skill, i'm not saying that he had no skill or boxing ability cause it's obvious that he did, but there are other fighters who were/are leaps and bounds better from a technical standpoint than Chavez, for instance Lopez, Chavez may be the greatest Mexican fighter but IMO he's hardly the greatest technician to come out of Mexico

Seems Chavez punishing Rosario and embarrising Camacho still stings

seeing how I was 2 yrs old for the Rosario fight, and don't even rank Camacho too highly in the first point, don't see how it would sting me all that much, nice try though

I didn't downplay Chavez as the greatest fighter to come out of Mexico, but IMO he his defense (or lack of) is what separates him from the likes of Lopez and Marquez

[Pavlik]

fought the very best, no padding what so ever. JMM numero uno!

[FinitoElDinamita]

Juan Manuel Marquez.. Not only is he the greatest Mexican to ever lace em up but he's on that level with the Sugar Rays...

[CutMeMick]

For my likings... on technical ability.

"Finito" Lopez
"Dinamita" Marquez
"Chava" Sanchez
Roman
Saldivar
"El Maestro" Canto
"Terrible" Morales
"Baby Faced Assassin" Barrera

Honor mentions to: "Maestrito" Lopez

[IronDanLaw]

Ricardo Lopez

[rjj tszyu]

I don't quite understand why Chavez doesn't qualify. He's my pick! Followed by Barrera and then Sanchez.