hugging or boxing

[Tam Seddon]

Molina was a joke this weekend, he was so frustrating to watch. I know the right ended in contraversie but I am glad Kirkland finally caught him, Molina was horrible to watch.

[greynotsoold]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

[Manos de Piedra]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

Nice post.

[erics44]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

honestly man you couldnt be more wrong

and i dont blame molina or mcphilbin, had either have fought within the rules they would have more than likely have been knocked out, but why would they if they can get away with it?

and refs seem to be happy to let these tactics go in more and more fights

[Manos de Piedra]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

honestly man you couldnt be more wrong

and i dont blame molina or mcphilbin, had either have fought within the rules they would have more than likely have been knocked out, but why would they if they can get away with it?

and refs seem to be happy to let these tactics go in more and more fights

WWE is entertainment, Boxing is a competitive sport. I do agree that excessive holding does make boring fights and should be penalised but if a guy was trying to knock your head off would you just get knocked out? or hold and spoil his work and try getting the W? In my view boxing is a sport first and then entertainment.

[Diane]

Actually, I would be embarrassed to take a win if my main strategy was holding. It's boxing, not Dancing With The Stars. I like Molina, but I was quite disappointed in all that damn holding. I was yelling at the ref to do something about it.

[erics44]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

honestly man you couldnt be more wrong

and i dont blame molina or mcphilbin, had either have fought within the rules they would have more than likely have been knocked out, but why would they if they can get away with it?

and refs seem to be happy to let these tactics go in more and more fights

WWE is entertainment, Boxing is a competitive sport. I do agree that excessive holding does make boring fights and should be penalised but if a guy was trying to knock your head off would you just get knocked out? or hold and spoil his work and try getting the W? In my view boxing is a sport first and then entertainment.

honestly mate you couldnt be more wrong

every sport design their rules to make their game more entertaining for the millions of people who pay their hard earned money to be entertained

first and foremost boxing is entertainment

the rules of football have changed many times (take the offside rule for example) to make the game faster and more attacking and bring more goals. Rugby and cricket the same have changed the rules over and over again to make the game more entertaining

one of the rules of boxing is no hugging and that is because boxing is entertainment and hugging isnt entertaining

Molina's tactics were against the rules of boxing

[Rantcatrat]

Ann Wolfe may have done a lot to help Kirkland in the past, but I believe she failed Kirkland last Saturday night by not pointing out the excessive clinching. It's the corner's responsibilty to look out for what's best for the fighter. She is a boxing trainer. If we noticed the excessive holding, no doubt she did too, and she was in the power to do something about it.

[Diane]

Ann Wolfe may have done a lot to help Kirkland in the past, but I believe she failed Kirkland last Saturday night by not pointing out the excessive clinching. It's the corner's responsibilty to look out for what's best for the fighter. She is a boxing trainer. If we noticed the excessive holding, no doubt she did too, and she was in the power to do something about it.

I agree completely. I kept saying to Danny, why isn't she getting on the ref about all the fucking holding. It's been a long time since I was so pissed during a fight.

[Rantcatrat]

So you're fighting a strong hard hitting guy that wants to run after you and throw a ton of punches...What do you do? Let him? Fight his fight and get knocked out to entertain people? Boxing is not entertainment; it is a competition in which you try and hit the guy more than he hits you. Sometimes it is entertaining, sometimes less so. Strategy is an integral part of the sport. My big disappointment was that Molina was so artless about his holding and tying up. No style at all.
Kirkland may be too dumb to be a good fighter, and Ann Wolfe is useless in a corner.

That's an interesting viewpoint although I don't agree. Rule 2 of the Queensberry Rules expressly states that there is no holding. Most commissions follow the Queensberry Rules. Molina broke that rule when he initiated an excessive amount of holding. A strategy purposefully designed to break a rule in a sport with rules is a poor strategy. Realize that Molina could have fought on the inside without initiating clinches and had the same effect, which may have been your point I bolded above. In reality, it would have been even better because he would have been punching on the inside too. As I don't need to tell you, there have been many great matches almost entirely fought on the inside without holding.

[Hulk]

Molina was a joke this weekend, he was so frustrating to watch. I know the right ended in contraversie but I am glad Kirkland finally caught him, Molina was horrible to watch.

I agree. I couldn't be happier when Kirkland hurt him in the 10th round and eventually dropped him.

The ref deprived us of a probable come from behind KO or TKO win from Kirkland.