Will JCC jr finally put up and fight Martinez?

[Rantcatrat]

given sergio's poor performances in his most recent fights, i'd say chavez jr has a good chance of defeating him.

He won both by knockouts?

[roberto duran legend]

Chavez will not fight Martinez until he has wiped all the less talented fighters in his division,
the guy is a chicken shit , and i dont care how big he will be Martinez if he ever gets the
chance to get in the ring with him, Martinez will school him no problem .

[p4pking]

Chavez will not fight Martinez until he has wiped all the less talented fighters in his division,
the guy is a chicken shit , and i dont care how big he will be Martinez if he ever gets the
chance to get in the ring with him, Martinez will school him no problem .

I agree that Jr will be matched up very carefully regardless of how ready he is, and we probably won't see this fight happen this year. However; Martinez has never really schooled anyone no problem, the guy is very athletic but doesn't have the kind of skills to make an easy night of Chavez at all. It would be a really hard fight for both men, despite what you think of them.

[MMASUX]

September is a long way off. I'm sure Jr will have some sort of "injury" by then. I just don't see this fight happening.

[ruthless rocco]

jr is bigger and stronger and may even hit harder than anyone sergio has fought...

he's not gonna lay down the way barker and macklin did.

barker and macklin didn't do anything offensively effective in their fights against martinez. they just fought a more reserved defensive style which didn't suit martinez' need for a come forward fighter. he needs someone to walk into his counter punches.

a smart and talented fighter with a strong jab, some decent defence and 12 round stamina should be able to take martinez into deep water and take him by UD.

[captainanddew]

jr is bigger and stronger and may even hit harder than anyone sergio has fought...

he's not gonna lay down the way barker and macklin did.

barker and macklin didn't do anything offensively effective in their fights against martinez. they just fought a more reserved defensive style which didn't suit martinez' need for a come forward fighter. he needs someone to walk into his counter punches.

a smart and talented fighter with a strong jab, some decent defence and 12 round stamina should be able to take martinez into deep water and take him by UD.

Who is the strong talented fighter with a strong jab, decent defense, and 12 round stamina that fights at 154 or 160? Surely you don't mean Chavez Jr. He gets hit at will. If Zbik had any power he would have been laid out.

There really isn't anyone at 154 or 160 that meets that definition. 160- Sturm-done. Macklin-beaten. Chavez Jr.-walks in and eats punches to get in close. Pirog-he doesn't fight a traditional style behind the jab.

154-Cotto?
Canelo-? His defense isn't exactly full proof.
Vanes
Lara
Molina?
Kirkland?

I don't exactly see the guy that has a strong jab in either division.

[ruthless rocco]

jr is bigger and stronger and may even hit harder than anyone sergio has fought...

he's not gonna lay down the way barker and macklin did.

barker and macklin didn't do anything offensively effective in their fights against martinez. they just fought a more reserved defensive style which didn't suit martinez' need for a come forward fighter. he needs someone to walk into his counter punches.

a smart and talented fighter with a strong jab, some decent defence and 12 round stamina should be able to take martinez into deep water and take him by UD.

Who is the strong talented fighter with a strong jab, decent defense, and 12 round stamina that fights at 154 or 160? Surely you don't mean Chavez Jr. He gets hit at will. If Zbik had any power he would have been laid out.

There really isn't anyone at 154 or 160 that meets that definition. 160- Sturm-done. Macklin-beaten. Chavez Jr.-walks in and eats punches to get in close. Pirog-he doesn't fight a traditional style behind the jab.

154-Cotto?
Canelo-? His defense isn't exactly full proof.
Vanes
Lara
Molina?
Kirkland?

I don't exactly see the guy that has a strong jab in either division.

my thoughts exactly! sergio is top dog in a poor division.

but he's an old dog who's showing signs of age... we'll see what happens in his next few fights.

[Rantcatrat]

We'll know for sure in the near future as the two sides have about two weeks to come to an agreement for a fight in June/July or September. If not, there will be a mandatory purse bid. Dibella stated that as long as Top Rank was willing to sign a contract for a fight in September and put money in an escrow account that Dibella can keep if the fight doesn't come off, then he is fine with the September date.

It would be great to see the winner of the Pirog/Geale fight, assuming that comes off, face the winner of the Martinez/Chavez Jr. fight at the end of the year.