Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
jr is bigger and stronger and may even hit harder than anyone sergio has fought...

he's not gonna lay down the way barker and macklin did.

barker and macklin didn't do anything offensively effective in their fights against martinez. they just fought a more reserved defensive style which didn't suit martinez' need for a come forward fighter. he needs someone to walk into his counter punches.

a smart and talented fighter with a strong jab, some decent defence and 12 round stamina should be able to take martinez into deep water and take him by UD.
Who is the strong talented fighter with a strong jab, decent defense, and 12 round stamina that fights at 154 or 160? Surely you don't mean Chavez Jr. He gets hit at will. If Zbik had any power he would have been laid out.

There really isn't anyone at 154 or 160 that meets that definition. 160- Sturm-done. Macklin-beaten. Chavez Jr.-walks in and eats punches to get in close. Pirog-he doesn't fight a traditional style behind the jab.

154-Cotto?
Canelo-? His defense isn't exactly full proof.
Vanes
Lara
Molina?
Kirkland?

I don't exactly see the guy that has a strong jab in either division.