Are British boxers too protected these days.

[Dia bando]

British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.

Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.

It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
said in the past the moneys right they fight.

[Leighton]

British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.

Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.

It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
said in the past the moneys right they fight.

I have no problem with them having easy fights inbetween tough fights. But they have way too many easy fights inbetween and take too long to take on good opposition. You compare Khan to Murray. How many fights do you need before you take a risk. Like you say its all down to money, but we lose out and I find myself not bothering to watch good home fighters.
If Clevs next two fights were against people ranked 30th or under would you bother to watch them?

[Dia bando]

British fighters are no more protected than they were many years ago or most other countries. As has been said, the aim is to maximise the income of the fighter, and then try and achieve things in that order. Fighters will eventually find their level in the end but ability (think Galzaghe or Naz), age (think Froch), ring wars (think Froch again) and ambition (think Hatton leaving Warren) are factors that influence how far they progress.

Well I for one am a fan of a fighter. I didnt watch the last two cleverly fights properly, just sky plus and fast foward it to a ko or decision victory. As far as Murray goes I remember people saying how he was the next best thing but knew as soon as he was put against reasonably good opposition he would lose. He was prowd of his record for being the british fighter with most fights undefeated. But they were a bunch of losers. I just cant enjoy watching people beat on weaker people for so long.
I know UFC is less entertaining than boxing but at least the fighters are challenged at the right level.

It seem to me you are a bit slow on the uptake, you will never see fighters fighting top class opposition week in week out it does not happen. Take note my friend if you were a manager
you would turn a winner into a loser.what for your own self gratification match making is
not easy you shout and moan. we all do as fans remember in this game money rules as I have
said in the past the moneys right they fight.

I have no problem with them having easy fights inbetween tough fights. But they have way too many easy fights inbetween and take too long to take on good opposition. You compare Khan to Murray. How many fights do you need before you take a risk. Like you say its all down to money, but we lose out and I find myself not bothering to watch good home fighters.
If Clevs next two fights were against people ranked 30th or under would you bother to watch them?

I can see were you are coming from, there are times you will have to face good fighters problem is
there are not many undisputed champions about theses days.
Here is my take you got 4 champions at one weight 4 top ten fighters in there ranking ,that forty fighters in there top ten. Some will be ranked in all 4 so looking at the overall picture, you got your 4
champs 1 outstanding 1 good and the others mediocre.The same for the contenders some will be good and some crap what a mix my friend were do you start.
What it boils down to lots of champs and contenders at one weight yes some quality and some dross
thats how boxing stands at the moment.

[killersheep]

Match making is a business proposal nothing more, nothing less. Until the risk/reward equation shows maximum returns, the best matches won't be made. This is not an exclusive phenomena that exists on the dreary isle of Great Britain, it happens everywhere a promoter has a say.

The only way around this is to have a single sanctioning body that ranks fighters and limits the rank differential between fighters to make a fight, or a single body that schedule all fights themselves.

[Fenster]

Match making is a business proposal nothing more, nothing less. Until the risk/reward equation shows maximum returns, the best matches won't be made. This is not an exclusive phenomena that exists on the dreary isle of Great Britain, it happens everywhere a promoter has a say.

The only way around this is to have a single sanctioning body that ranks fighters and limits the rank differential between fighters to make a fight, or a single body that schedule all fights themselves.

Which is pure fantasy because it would be detrimental to the amount of money made by fighters, managers, promoters, TV companies, sponsors, etc

Shit titles and shit matches only harm hardcore fans.

[killersheep]

Match making is a business proposal nothing more, nothing less. Until the risk/reward equation shows maximum returns, the best matches won't be made. This is not an exclusive phenomena that exists on the dreary isle of Great Britain, it happens everywhere a promoter has a say.

The only way around this is to have a single sanctioning body that ranks fighters and limits the rank differential between fighters to make a fight, or a single body that schedule all fights themselves.

Which is pure fantasy because it would be detrimental to the amount of money made by fighters, managers, promoters, TV companies, sponsors, etc

Shit titles and shit matches only harm hardcore fans.

I completely agree, which gets back to my first point of maximal returns. I like my fantasy it makes for better fights, but completely fails as a business plan.

[Kirkland Laing]

Both Fenster and killersheep have this right. You can't do anything about the bullshit titles/organisations system in boxing. It would be ideal to have one single body and a commissioner of the sport like baseball and American football have, but those sports can have them because they have established franchises (teams) which are guaranteed to earn a certain level of revenue every season. There aren't any franchises in boxing, only individual prospects who may or may not turn out to be worth any investment by promoters. And promoters naturally want to protect their investments as much as they can, as is human nature. So we have the system we have.