Champions chasing Challengers

[ruthless rocco]

i'm gonna wait and see how he fares in the future... if and when he faces top level opposition again.

as i previously stated, he performed what i feel to be poorly against some basic B level fighters in his last two fights. which i feel lessens his credibility in the P4P rankings.

Which fighters do you class b level? He also stopped them all!

I'll give you Barker, but Macklin (who was robbed against Sturm) & Dzinziruk are world class!

the answers to your questions are in the quotes of mine you provided above.
have you chosen not to read the thread you've just joined?

only time will tell.

No I've read through the entire thread, & again Macklin was robbed against Sturm so was potentially #1 in the division & Martinez knocked him out! What more do you want?

i want to wait and see what happens when he fights next.

everything else is speculation... and i'm predicting his continued decline in focus and speed and power and therefore effectiveness. if this happens against a fighter with some wrinkles in his game, someone with some depth. i predict a loss for sergio.

you are perfectly welcome to think he's P4P whatever number you want.

[Galaxy]

Ok so who do you suggest he fights that will give him these wrinkles?

Remember the majority of his career was fought at 147 & 154, he only moved up because the Pavlik fight presented itself. I think Ward at 168 would give him problems but it's not really fair cause it's not Martinez' weight class.

I think Geale would be a good fight, but I see Martinez winning that one.

[ruthless rocco]

Ok so who do you suggest he fights that will give him these wrinkles?

Remember the majority of his career was fought at 147 & 154, he only moved up because the Pavlik fight presented itself. I think Ward at 168 would give him problems but it's not really fair cause it's not Martinez' weight class.

I think Geale would be a good fight, but I see Martinez winning that one.

again... i've already addressed this question in a previous post on this thread. you sure you read thru it all?

who should he face to merit his worth? that's the problem, he will lose when he faces someone who's a 3 dimensional fighter. he just happens to be in a weak division...but that doesn't prove his superiority. it just means he's top dog on a pile of shit.

[Galaxy]

Ok so who do you suggest he fights that will give him these wrinkles?

Remember the majority of his career was fought at 147 & 154, he only moved up because the Pavlik fight presented itself. I think Ward at 168 would give him problems but it's not really fair cause it's not Martinez' weight class.

I think Geale would be a good fight, but I see Martinez winning that one.

again... i've already addressed this question in a previous post on this thread. you sure you read thru it all?

who should he face to merit his worth? that's the problem, he will lose when he faces someone who's a 3 dimensional fighter. he just happens to be in a weak division...but that doesn't prove his superiority. it just means he's top dog on a pile of shit.

So you dont think anyone at 160 & 154 are any good?

[Galaxy]

You haven't mentioned anyone who you think might cause Martinez problems.

Just saying that he is atop a pile of shit is pretty lame!

Do you think Geale is a good fighter? What about Cotto? If Floyd stays at 154 would he be ok? Golovkin? Pirog? Molina? Trout?

Theres talent there your just failing to see it...

[ruthless rocco]

You haven't mentioned anyone who you think might cause Martinez problems.

Just saying that he is atop a pile of shit is pretty lame!

Do you think Geale is a good fighter? What about Cotto? If Floyd stays at 154 would he be ok? Golovkin? Pirog? Molina? Trout?

Theres talent there your just failing to see it...

look buddy... i just don't care to articulate myself farther than i already have.

i don't care how many people you're gonna ask me about. i don't care if you think my opinion is lame. i don't care if you think i'm over looking some gems in that shit pile...

i see evidence that martinez is fading.
i believe he's in a shallow division.
i believe he's overrated.

fin

[Galaxy]

You haven't mentioned anyone who you think might cause Martinez problems.

Just saying that he is atop a pile of shit is pretty lame!

Do you think Geale is a good fighter? What about Cotto? If Floyd stays at 154 would he be ok? Golovkin? Pirog? Molina? Trout?

Theres talent there your just failing to see it...

look buddy... i just don't care to articulate myself farther than i already have.

i don't care how many people you're gonna ask me about. i don't care if you think my opinion is lame. i don't care if you think i'm over looking some gems in that shit pile...

i see evidence that martinez is fading.
i believe he's in a shallow division.
i believe he's overrated.

fin

For starters I'm not your buddy!

All those things maybe true, Martinez may well be sliding, The divisions maybe shallow (although I think 154 is pretty good), & Martinez maybe overrated.

But saying the division(s) are a shit pile is very disrespectful to the fighters ranked in them. Have you ever fought? Doubt it! Do you know how much hard work goes into training for a fight? Thousands of fighters train their asses of & don't even get near being rated.

Now I asked you who you thought would trouble Martinez because I thought you might be able to debate like an adult, plus you said you wanted to see how he fares against top level opposition again & that he will lose when he meets a legit contender again, I merely wanted to know who you thought of as a legit contender in your opinion. This is after all a boxing site & if you don't want to discuss or share your opinions then whats the point of you being here?