slipping outside with step?

[BTF]

Whatever direction you are moving, that foot is the one you want to move first.

It isn't entirely clear what you are trying to do... but this is something I often do to slip and counter a jab.

I slip outside, while simultaneously taking a small step forward and to the outside with my front foot, and throwing a counter jab to the opponent's stomach. This really catches a lot of people off guard, and it's easy to follow up with a cross or hook.

[Andre]

@BTF

Whats BTF stand for? Be There First?

[WayneFlint]

I have to say i agree with both scrap and grey on this one, i prefer to step with just the right foot a little and bend knees to sit down to counter with a quality 2 3, brutal. or take both feet with me for the slip but i find its hard to make this counter as quick as the first option, but balance is better for movement however the base isnt there to break through the guard and shoulder the same, it seems better to sit down to hammer the 2, 3 home past the shoulder and guard. you must do one of these two options in terms of footwork to maintain good posture for a big shot thats for sure.

Now as for the angles i just find like grey says the angles are all wrong, we want the back foot closer to the targets, i prefer to slip inside the jab moving forward or back loading the left first, or like scrap said moving with the right foot only and sitting down, also i like stepping with the left first to the right to put weight on the front then pivot out, gives a better angle specially for the straight right, sometimes it seems easier to pivot this way using the heel rather than toe if your to keep good posture.

Another variation very simple but wicked, like scrap says, slipping outside taking both feet, but move the right foot forward more than the left to almost line up the rear with what was your lead foot, now your feet are in the right position to through a big right, all you have to do is twist your torso and turn heels anti clockwise to face ur man with the new angle, the step (both feet) winds up the right but the angle favours the left hook that comes after it. the movement your doing is sort of how you would weave under a left hook but taking both feet with you as you do and moving more laterally than back while squaring the stance to where you was just facing.

Its sort of a hybrid step i started messing with after learning of a step refered to as the drop-step, like a side step but moving the rear foot to the side and forwards past the lead foot to then southpaw stance while bending knees to avoid punches during the step, i used to like throwing big off of this step or using it to get out of corners but to be honest it really limits mobility way too much thats why i thought of this variation after learning better.

good thread guys, love ones like this.

[Gray Lion]

Watch some Mike Tyson videos like on You Tube..'Mike Tyson Defense' is one that comes to mind. He would slip outside.

[Andre]

Watch some Mike Tyson videos like on You Tube..'Mike Tyson Defense' is one that comes to mind. He would slip outside.

Yeah he would duck and go out from right under their chin and launch an uppercut as he left the space, then he would stick to them like glue and smother them, even from the outside of their arm he was close enough to choke their moves.

The way Mike would either duck and weave his way in or even smash their guard out the way to get into his preferred distance or even just take one clean on the forehead as he moved in to smother them, was amazing to watch back then.

[cambay411]

Any step during or after a slip would be to creat an angle to land a punch. You can step while slipping I guess but its not neccessary.