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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    One thing we might not be taking into account here is Floyd's inactivity and age. He fought once last year, and that fight went four rounds and ended in a lame blow.

    The guy might just be fading a lot more than we think he is. We'll see what happens.

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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    No strategy needed, Money May is the clear winner in any area

    Jab- Money May longer reach, consistent one of the best
    Dexterity - Money May
    Speed - Money May

    Money May- via stopage in mid-late rounds. Cotto will be lucky if he goes to 12 rounds.

    all of this IMO only.

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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by UKPH View Post
    No strategy needed, Money May is the clear winner in any area

    Jab- Money May longer reach, consistent one of the best
    Dexterity - Money May
    Speed - Money May

    Money May- via stopage in mid-late rounds. Cotto will be lucky if he goes to 12 rounds.

    all of this IMO only.
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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    One thing we might not be taking into account here is Floyd's inactivity and age. He fought once last year, and that fight went four rounds and ended in a lame blow.

    The guy might just be fading a lot more than we think he is. We'll see what happens.

    This fight might tell us something about that, the problem is Cotto himself has been in some wars and has been hit way too often in recent years. Floyd is the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, can Cotto actually hit him? Not only hit him, but enough times to slow him down? I doubt it.

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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    The same way he fought Judah, low blows until his hands drop to protect down below, then thump that skull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    One thing we might not be taking into account here is Floyd's inactivity and age. He fought once last year, and that fight went four rounds and ended in a lame blow.

    The guy might just be fading a lot more than we think he is. We'll see what happens.

    This fight might tell us something about that, the problem is Cotto himself has been in some wars and has been hit way too often in recent years. Floyd is the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, can Cotto actually hit him? Not only hit him, but enough times to slow him down? I doubt it.
    If Floyd is the best defensive fighter you have ever seen, go and watch some Pernell Whitaker and Willie Pep. Floyd is amazing, but I think those two are clearly above Floyd.

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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    I still think Cotto should try any which way he can to make Floyd bring the fight to Cotto.

    Floyd is more aggressive these days, and just a little stiffer,less fluid.

    I think if Cotto can switch ranges mid-round, move then slug, move then slug, I think he'll frustrate Floyd into throwing more/ working harder than he should. I mean Floyd was throwing combos against Ortiz just to impose himself... I found that a lil odd.

    Also Cotto has a nice arsenal of punches - most of them are incredibly sneaky - and he has excellent timing when he really wants to. He's pretty good with angles and has been known to switch stances... I think he needs to utilise ALL of these tools just in order to stay competitive (and hope that his power makes the difference).

    If he can dictate the right pattern of engagement (patience & aggression, straight punches, changing angles & stances, positional pressure), I can see Floyd being hit with a few shots that he didn't see coming.

    Although, with that being said, all you have to do is watch Mosley/ Cotto round 7 to see how easy it can be to get caught waiting. Cotto has got a mountain to climb
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    Plan # 1.First box smart for the first couple of rounds, showing good sportsmanship hoping to earn Floyd's respect despite losing badly. Then by round 3 or 4 at the first full clinch, headbutt Floyd dramatically ala Ortiz. THEN, go in for a hug, but only one! After this, Cotto needs to make it seem as though he wants to touch gloves, only really looking for Floyd to respond with sportsmanship in order to land the 1-2 down the middle before he does. Cotto's best hope is to assume that Floyd wouldn't attempt to cold clock someone in the same fashion as he did Ortiz in consecutive fights, giving himself the chance to do so.

    Plan #2. He has a great chance to win by DQ should he really commit to low blows. Depending on the ref there is a legitimate chance that Roger Mayweather storms the ring before Cotto is even docked points.

    I just hope Emmanuel Steward has him rehearsing with Ortiz, Zab Judah and Andre Direll instead of sparring.

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    In seriousness, I don't give Cotto a chance in hell and I never liked this fight. Miguel is far more shopworn than people seem to acknowledge, he has no hope of boxing Floyd on the backfoot and he isn't durable enough to come forward and really work the body anymore. I'd love to be wrong but I don't think Cotto provides much more of a challenge than Ortiz at this point. Aside from being smarter than Victor I don't think Cotto really has any more upside right now. He hasn't looked near the fighter he was since losing to Margarito and has mostly gotten by on ring smarts, which won't hold up to Mayweathers.

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    Default Re: If you're Cotto what strategy do you employ?!

    Trouble is Floyd is a few levels above his opponents, Cotto is a very good fighter but I'm afraid Floyd is
    a lot better it's a good fight but I can see only one winner Floyd.
    I hope Cotto does not get beat up to bad,I like the guy but he is looking a bit shop worn good luck to
    him I feel he needs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Plan # 1.First box smart for the first couple of rounds, showing good sportsmanship hoping to earn Floyd's respect despite losing badly. Then by round 3 or 4 at the first full clinch, headbutt Floyd dramatically ala Ortiz. THEN, go in for a hug, but only one! After this, Cotto needs to make it seem as though he wants to touch gloves, only really looking for Floyd to respond with sportsmanship in order to land the 1-2 down the middle before he does. Cotto's best hope is to assume that Floyd wouldn't attempt to cold clock someone in the same fashion as he did Ortiz in consecutive fights, giving himself the chance to do so.

    Plan #2. He has a great chance to win by DQ should he really commit to low blows. Depending on the ref there is a legitimate chance that Roger Mayweather storms the ring before Cotto is even docked points.

    I just hope Emmanuel Steward has him rehearsing with Ortiz, Zab Judah and Andre Direll instead of sparring.
    Steward isn't training him anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainanddew View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    One thing we might not be taking into account here is Floyd's inactivity and age. He fought once last year, and that fight went four rounds and ended in a lame blow.

    The guy might just be fading a lot more than we think he is. We'll see what happens.

    This fight might tell us something about that, the problem is Cotto himself has been in some wars and has been hit way too often in recent years. Floyd is the best defensive fighter i have ever seen, can Cotto actually hit him? Not only hit him, but enough times to slow him down? I doubt it.
    If Floyd is the best defensive fighter you have ever seen, go and watch some Pernell Whitaker and Willie Pep. Floyd is amazing, but I think those two are clearly above Floyd.
    I am well familiar with Whitaker, Pep was before my time. I have never seen a boxer like Floyd who has the ability to make a fighter miss so often then counter so fast. He makes fools of his opponents at times. (Even more so than Whitaker) Mosley nailed him in round 2 and then PBF went about changing the game plan, Mosley never won another round. Cotto will find it very difficult to hit Floyd, speed is not his greatest asset.

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