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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th

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    Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?

    Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.

    I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.

    Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice. I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.

    And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
    And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th

    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?

    Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.

    I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.

    Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice. I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.

    And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
    And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?
    The Adamek-Chambers fight is as good heavyweight fight coming up in June. I'm actually surprised Adamek took it because it's a risky fight for him. There are fights like that one, and Huck-Povetkin, Dimitrenko-Pulev, even Jennings-Liakhovich, that are or were solid heavyweight bouts. They're just not true title fights.

    As for a Wladimir challenger, Arreola is a good choice, as is Seth Mitchelll assuming he gets by Witherspoon, the winner of Pulev-Dimitrenko. Speaking of Witherspoon-Mitchell, how big a role with Virgil Hunter, Ward's trainer, play into the outcome of that fight?

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    We've had good heavyweight fights within the last decade. Brewster-Liakhovich, Vitali-Lewis....both great matches!

    As a fan of Wlad's sure I'd love for Wlad to throw caution to the wind and go for broke right from the first bell, but you've got to understand he's winning and winning handily and you don't fuck with a winning streak! Wlad is comfortable in the ring right now and I don't see anyone that can crack that aura.

    I think Arreola would come to fight and I like Seth Mitchell but to be very honest a better fight is Arreola vs Mitchell because Wlad is so much better than the rest of the division it should be illegal. I'm certain Thompson will give his all in the rematch but for all of the heavyweights, sometimes your best isn't good enough.

    Imagine if Wlad fights 2 times a year for the next 4 years....I mean there's 0 threats out there for him, 0.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiac View Post
    Chisora and Arreola both put up a very good fight with Vitali. Why wouldn't they do so with Wlad, who is more reluctant to throw?

    Arreola would give Wlad more problems then some people would like to suggest.

    I wouldn't say Wlad is reluctant to throw. I'd say that no one has forced the issue and MADE him throw, if only in self-defense. Arreola has the physical tools, but he's a little of a head case, and there's no telling how he would react to getting caught by a few Wlad shots.

    Also, the term "giving Wlad a good fight" just doesn't cut it anymore. I don't want to see a gallant effort ending in an embarrassing KO, and us lauding the victim about how he made Wlad back up once or twice. I want to see someone make Wlad pull out all the stops. I want to see a good heavyweight fight, for the first time in more than a decade, probably. I want to see whether Wlad actually has another gear in his transmission.

    And with the shambles that is the HW division right now, if someone like Arreola really wants to be HW champ and thinks he can do it, then by all means get this fight made ASAP. The Klits aren't getting any younger... and eventually the age excuse will come into the picture.
    And if you want to see a good heavyweight fight like you describe, Arreola is the best man to do it, in my opinion. Very straightforward, and he's got quite a chin. Who else is going to back him up like that, besides maybe Chisora?
    The Adamek-Chambers fight is as good heavyweight fight coming up in June. I'm actually surprised Adamek took it because it's a risky fight for him. There are fights like that one, and Huck-Povetkin, Dimitrenko-Pulev, even Jennings-Liakhovich, that are or were solid heavyweight bouts. They're just not true title fights.

    As for a Wladimir challenger, Arreola is a good choice, as is Seth Mitchelll assuming he gets by Witherspoon, the winner of Pulev-Dimitrenko. Speaking of Witherspoon-Mitchell, how big a role with Virgil Hunter, Ward's trainer, play into the outcome of that fight?
    I like both Adamek and Chambers. That should be a pretty good fight. I look forward to tuning in for that one.

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    There's a new Danish heavyweight on the scene and is billed as "The Biggest Boxer in the World" Morten Poulsen is 7'2 and was like 4-0 as an amateur.

    Really the guys on the horizon like Joe Hanks & Deontay Wilder will bring the heat to the post Klitschko era. I think Hanks would make a very solid champion.

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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    There's a new Danish heavyweight on the scene and is billed as "The Biggest Boxer in the World" Morten Poulsen is 7'2 and was like 4-0 as an amateur.

    Really the guys on the horizon like Joe Hanks & Deontay Wilder will bring the heat to the post Klitschko era. I think Hanks would make a very solid champion.
    I could have swore I saw videos of Poulsen "training" years ago, and I thought "wow that is a very tall tomato can"

    Hanks and Wilder needs to fight live bodies before we make any assumptions about them being the future. Neither one needs anymore pampering, they both need to face some adversity.
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    Default Re: Wladimir Klitschko-Tony Thompson II July 7th

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    There's a new Danish heavyweight on the scene and is billed as "The Biggest Boxer in the World" Morten Poulsen is 7'2 and was like 4-0 as an amateur.

    Really the guys on the horizon like Joe Hanks & Deontay Wilder will bring the heat to the post Klitschko era. I think Hanks would make a very solid champion.
    Deontay Wilder doesn't seem to be progressing. as soon as he steps up I think he gets stopped. Hope I'm wrong because of his size and athletic ability.

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