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[El Kabong]

If you're goin life and death with zab till a few low blows slow him you're not beating floyd...same with his fight witth clottey they were dead even till clottey slowed down. Floyd has every advantage, I wouldn't even say cottos power is that much better, if at all, cotto loses this

Who else had trouble with Zab Floyd...don't act like fighting Zab was some sort of cake walk for Junior who got cracked good with the left. Cotto didn't just beat Zab, he punished him, he stopped him.

Sure Cotto is the underdog in this fight but give the man some fucking credit

[armin]

If you're goin life and death with zab till a few low blows slow him you're not beating floyd...same with his fight witth clottey they were dead even till clottey slowed down. Floyd has every advantage, I wouldn't even say cottos power is that much better, if at all, cotto loses this

Who else had trouble with Zab Floyd...don't act like fighting Zab was some sort of cake walk for Junior who got cracked good with the left. Cotto didn't just beat Zab, he punished him, he stopped him.

Sure Cotto is the underdog in this fight but give the man some fucking credit

Yeah except I think those lowblows slowed zab down...intentional or not. I see you make no mention of the clottey fight which in many peoples eyes could have gone either way, and if you go life and death with him you're not beatin floyd. I don't mind cotto and despise floyd but cotto literally has no chance to me, he's a damaged fighter in my eyes

[El Kabong]

Yeah except I think those lowblows slowed zab down...intentional or not. I see you make no mention of the clottey fight which in many peoples eyes could have gone either way, and if you go life and death with him you're not beatin floyd. I don't mind cotto and despise floyd but cotto literally has no chance to me, he's a damaged fighter in my eyes

Well if the low blows slowed Zab down then it was a wise move by Cotto and I wouldn't doubt he'd do that vs Floyd if he thought it would help him win. I don't make mention of the Clottey fight because it's erroneous, Floyd doesn't fight like Clottey, Cotto was just coming off a loss to Margarito who Clottey was a poor man's version of. Clottey is durable and durability + stamina kills Cotto. To win Cotto needs his opponent to feel the power he has, Mosley did and he backed off a bit, Pacquiao fought through it but then again Cotto didn't have a trainer in that fight.

Cotto is an underdog, but he has skills that will make Floyd WORK for a win, it won't be easy for him I can tell you that. Hell Pacquiao did tons of damage to Cotto as did Margarito, but Cotto is a warrior, he's not easy to beat.

[boozeboxer]

Yeah except I think those lowblows slowed zab down...intentional or not. I see you make no mention of the clottey fight which in many peoples eyes could have gone either way, and if you go life and death with him you're not beatin floyd. I don't mind cotto and despise floyd but cotto literally has no chance to me, he's a damaged fighter in my eyes

Well if the low blows slowed Zab down then it was a wise move by Cotto and I wouldn't doubt he'd do that vs Floyd if he thought it would help him win. I don't make mention of the Clottey fight because it's erroneous, Floyd doesn't fight like Clottey, Cotto was just coming off a loss to Margarito who Clottey was a poor man's version of. Clottey is durable and durability + stamina kills Cotto. To win Cotto needs his opponent to feel the power he has, Mosley did and he backed off a bit, Pacquiao fought through it but then again Cotto didn't have a trainer in that fight.

Cotto is an underdog, but he has skills that will make Floyd WORK for a win, it won't be easy for him I can tell you that. Hell Pacquiao did tons of damage to Cotto as did Margarito, but Cotto is a warrior, he's not easy to beat.

what is the difference in durability and stamina exactly??

[El Kabong]

Durable means you're able to take punishment while Stamina means you're able to keep a high workrate for long periods of time without tiring

2 completely different things although they can be found together in certain fighters, Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Joe Frazier (vs Ali especially), Evander Holyfield, Marvin Hagler.

Some guys are durable but don't have the stamina: old George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Tex Cobb, old Bernard Hopkins etc.

Some guys have stamina but aren't durable: Floyd Patterson, Leo Dorin, Arturo Gatti, etc.



When Miguel Cotto encountered Antonio Margarito the first time, Miguel had mowed down everyone else in front of him and had planned to do the same to Toni, but Margarito didn't wilt from the power of Cotto's shots and didn't tire from Cotto's aggression (as well as his own punch output) ergo Toni was too durable & had great enough stamina to beat Cotto (and of course the loaded wraps hurt Miguel too of course).

[armyash]

I see Cotto having some success definitely. Ortiz was doing ok before he lost the plot and I reckon he was going to cause PBF problems although I believe Mayweather would have won anyway if the fight had continued.

PBF is only human too, he has definitely started to show his age, barely noticeable but it is still showing. Cotto has to hurt Mayweather early to get his respect and make him think twice about attacking. Mayweather is ruthless when he knows he can land at will, who remembers the Gatti fight?

Of course Mayweather is the favourite but Cotto is a strong tough fighter. He is not so slow that Mayweather can be reckless, he can take a lot of punishment and doesn't know when he is beaten.

Mayweather is not stupid and he takes the right fights at the right time but I see a long hard fight for him.

The majority of the greatest fighters have all lost at some point, greater fighters than the pretty boy. Don't be shocked if you see an upset.

[armin]

Yeah except I think those lowblows slowed zab down...intentional or not. I see you make no mention of the clottey fight which in many peoples eyes could have gone either way, and if you go life and death with him you're not beatin floyd. I don't mind cotto and despise floyd but cotto literally has no chance to me, he's a damaged fighter in my eyes

Well if the low blows slowed Zab down then it was a wise move by Cotto and I wouldn't doubt he'd do that vs Floyd if he thought it would help him win. I don't make mention of the Clottey fight because it's erroneous, Floyd doesn't fight like Clottey, Cotto was just coming off a loss to Margarito who Clottey was a poor man's version of. Clottey is durable and durability + stamina kills Cotto. To win Cotto needs his opponent to feel the power he has, Mosley did and he backed off a bit, Pacquiao fought through it but then again Cotto didn't have a trainer in that fight.

Cotto is an underdog, but he has skills that will make Floyd WORK for a win, it won't be easy for him I can tell you that. Hell Pacquiao did tons of damage to Cotto as did Margarito, but Cotto is a warrior, he's not easy to beat.

Floyd has stamina, and he might also be extremely durable his skills have prevented as from having to find out and I think that it'll be the same here. As I said before I think floyd takes this something like 9 to 3 or maybe late stopage. As I said before I really think cotto is damaged goods and has been for a while.

[El Kabong]

Floyd has stamina, and he might also be extremely durable his skills have prevented as from having to find out and I think that it'll be the same here. As I said before I think floyd takes this something like 9 to 3 or maybe late stopage. As I said before I really think cotto is damaged goods and has been for a while.

Floyd does have stamina and his defense is awesome, but we don't know if he can take consistent punishment from a guy who will be there for at least 9 rounds. Miguel Cotto can win rounds, and if he can rough Floyd up then we may have an upset on our hands.

Remember when Bernard Hopkins was seemingly untouchable at 160? That's the way I see Floyd. Their strengths in defense, getting their opponents to fight the way they want to fight, and sneaky power/stamina really casts an aura of invincibility over them. But time stands still for no one and although Floyd is faster, has a bit of an advantage in reach & height, and is a more skilled pure boxer, Miguel Cotto is a big boy and will weigh close to 165 (ballpark guess) if not more come fight night will have an edge on power, and unlike most of Floyd's other opponents Cotto can switch up to southpaw and be just as effective.


What I'm saying is, no matter how great Floyd looks right now Miguel Cotto is a very live underdog who fights with a lot of heart and will give 100% out there in the ring. For the first time in a while Floyd will have to EARN a win and that right there is good for boxing. The fact that Alvarez could lose to Mosely on the undercard makes this a night of boxing I refuse to miss out on.


Win or lose for Cotto May 5th is going to be a great night of boxing!

[Pavlik]

Floyd has stamina, and he might also be extremely durable his skills have prevented as from having to find out and I think that it'll be the same here. As I said before I think floyd takes this something like 9 to 3 or maybe late stopage. As I said before I really think cotto is damaged goods and has been for a while.

Floyd does have stamina and his defense is awesome, but we don't know if he can take consistent punishment from a guy who will be there for at least 9 rounds. Miguel Cotto can win rounds, and if he can rough Floyd up then we may have an upset on our hands.

Remember when Bernard Hopkins was seemingly untouchable at 160? That's the way I see Floyd. Their strengths in defense, getting their opponents to fight the way they want to fight, and sneaky power/stamina really casts an aura of invincibility over them. But time stands still for no one and although Floyd is faster, has a bit of an advantage in reach & height, and is a more skilled pure boxer, Miguel Cotto is a big boy and will weigh close to 165 (ballpark guess) if not more come fight night will have an edge on power, and unlike most of Floyd's other opponents Cotto can switch up to southpaw and be just as effective.


What I'm saying is, no matter how great Floyd looks right now Miguel Cotto is a very live underdog who fights with a lot of heart and will give 100% out there in the ring. For the first time in a while Floyd will have to EARN a win and that right there is good for boxing. The fact that Alvarez could lose to Mosely on the undercard makes this a night of boxing I refuse to miss out on.


Win or lose for Cotto May 5th is going to be a great night of boxing!

I hope you're right, I don't see Floyd dropping Cotto at all but I do see it ala Floyd Gatti, eventually. Seeing the 24/7 with Cotto looking great with a great trainer sugarcoats reality though

[Dropanuke]

Iv bet £50 on cotto to win at 4/2 odds

[armin]

And holy crap this thread done turned me into a floyd defender ugh

[armin]

Floyd has stamina, and he might also be extremely durable his skills have prevented as from having to find out and I think that it'll be the same here. As I said before I think floyd takes this something like 9 to 3 or maybe late stopage. As I said before I really think cotto is damaged goods and has been for a while.

Floyd does have stamina and his defense is awesome, but we don't know if he can take consistent punishment from a guy who will be there for at least 9 rounds. Miguel Cotto can win rounds, and if he can rough Floyd up then we may have an upset on our hands.

Remember when Bernard Hopkins was seemingly untouchable at 160? That's the way I see Floyd. Their strengths in defense, getting their opponents to fight the way they want to fight, and sneaky power/stamina really casts an aura of invincibility over them. But time stands still for no one and although Floyd is faster, has a bit of an advantage in reach & height, and is a more skilled pure boxer, Miguel Cotto is a big boy and will weigh close to 165 (ballpark guess) if not more come fight night will have an edge on power, and unlike most of Floyd's other opponents Cotto can switch up to southpaw and be just as effective.


What I'm saying is, no matter how great Floyd looks right now Miguel Cotto is a very live underdog who fights with a lot of heart and will give 100% out there in the ring. For the first time in a while Floyd will have to EARN a win and that right there is good for boxing. The fact that Alvarez could lose to Mosely on the undercard makes this a night of boxing I refuse to miss out on.


Win or lose for Cotto May 5th is going to be a great night of boxing!

Well have to agree to disagree on this one cause I see floyd having an easy night after four or five rounds, but hope I'm wrong.

[armyash]

Only way Mayweather has en easy night after 4/5 rounds is if Cotto has become a very very old worn fighter.

Mayweather is not a power puncher (hurtful and accurate, yes) which will be good for Cotto.

If Cotto can get his jab working and set himself up for combinations then force PBF back and against the ropes he will tire him out and Mayweather will be forced to up his work rate which he doesn't like having to do.

I'm not predicting a Cotto win as I haven't quite decided on what I think will happen but I reckon we are in for a very competitive fight especially with Cotto coming in after some good confidence boosting wins in his last few fights.

[Leighton]

Floyd has stamina, and he might also be extremely durable his skills have prevented as from having to find out and I think that it'll be the same here. As I said before I think floyd takes this something like 9 to 3 or maybe late stopage. As I said before I really think cotto is damaged goods and has been for a while.

Floyd does have stamina and his defense is awesome, but we don't know if he can take consistent punishment from a guy who will be there for at least 9 rounds. Miguel Cotto can win rounds, and if he can rough Floyd up then we may have an upset on our hands.

Remember when Bernard Hopkins was seemingly untouchable at 160? That's the way I see Floyd. Their strengths in defense, getting their opponents to fight the way they want to fight, and sneaky power/stamina really casts an aura of invincibility over them. But time stands still for no one and although Floyd is faster, has a bit of an advantage in reach & height, and is a more skilled pure boxer, Miguel Cotto is a big boy and will weigh close to 165 (ballpark guess) if not more come fight night will have an edge on power, and unlike most of Floyd's other opponents Cotto can switch up to southpaw and be just as effective.


What I'm saying is, no matter how great Floyd looks right now Miguel Cotto is a very live underdog who fights with a lot of heart and will give 100% out there in the ring. For the first time in a while Floyd will have to EARN a win and that right there is good for boxing. The fact that Alvarez could lose to Mosely on the undercard makes this a night of boxing I refuse to miss out on.


Win or lose for Cotto May 5th is going to be a great night of boxing!

You have alot of confidence in Cotto. If he tries to bring the fight to Floyd he will only tire himself out for the second half of the fight which will make for stupidly easy pickings for Floyd. Flolyd has the speed, the stamina, the defence, the skill and the power on his side. Not an easy combination to defeat unless you have the mother of all game plans. If floyd can take Hattons pace and punishment then Cotto will not be a problem. I dont see cotto getting to many good shots of on Floyd to cause any problems as Floyd will very quickly work out his pattern and send his own deadly attacks back. I think he has Cottos number in every area. I do however hope to god your right as I would love to see the smile wiped off that smug pricks face but I am very sure your wrong and your love of your fighter is blinding your judgement.
Not trying to be a prick just the totally opposate view. Sorry buddy but your fighter has no chance.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

Every person that's on Floyd's nuts right now doesn't seem to realize his cherry picking ways. Ortiz, Marquez, and Mosley weren't the best fighters in the world when Mayweather fought them. Cotto is Floyd's best competition since Hatton, at the very least.