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[Rantcatrat]

Also for the record P4p, I do see Mayweather winning this fight by eventual stoppage. So again, we're in agreement there.That doesn't make him any less of a credible opponent is all I'm saying. I see Floyd stopping Pac too if they eventually get it going.

Cotto is a credible opponent for anyone at or around 147-160. He's a borderline hall of fame boxer. He's got a good mix of talent and skills and he's a warrior. However, what makes his attractive as an opponent for Mayweather has nothing to do with his skills and all to do with his name and the money he brings to the table. I think there are several fighters at or around that weight that beat Cotto.

Like I said in another post, I don't believe Cotto has been the same since Margarito I. He seems fragile. In addition, I don't think he's any better at 154 than he was 147. I actually think at 154 he's probably more beatable because of his size. He's too small for a big junior middleweight.

[Althugz]

Also for the record P4p, I do see Mayweather winning this fight by eventual stoppage. So again, we're in agreement there.That doesn't make him any less of a credible opponent is all I'm saying. I see Floyd stopping Pac too if they eventually get it going.

Cotto is a credible opponent for anyone at or around 147-160. He's a borderline hall of fame boxer. He's got a good mix of talent and skills and he's a warrior. However, what makes his attractive as an opponent for Mayweather has nothing to do with his skills and all to do with his name and the money he brings to the table. I think there are several fighters at or around that weight that beat Cotto.

Like I said in another post, I don't believe Cotto has been the same since Margarito I. He seems fragile. In addition, I don't think he's any better at 154 than he was 147. I actually think at 154 he's probably more beatable because of his size. He's too small for a big junior middleweight.

Well the only challenge for Floyd at this point that might make him even remotely uncomfortable is Martinez at 160. I actually have a funny feeling he might go that route next. Roger hinted at it.
But beyond Pacquiao I cant think of a better fight at the moment than Cotto vs Floyd. His last fight he gave the young up and comer a shot at his throne and now he's giving it to a credible champion. I see nothing wrong with his opponent selection. (apart from the pathetic excuses both he and Pacquiao come up with for not getting it on but hey)

[Rantcatrat]

Also for the record P4p, I do see Mayweather winning this fight by eventual stoppage. So again, we're in agreement there.That doesn't make him any less of a credible opponent is all I'm saying. I see Floyd stopping Pac too if they eventually get it going.

Cotto is a credible opponent for anyone at or around 147-160. He's a borderline hall of fame boxer. He's got a good mix of talent and skills and he's a warrior. However, what makes his attractive as an opponent for Mayweather has nothing to do with his skills and all to do with his name and the money he brings to the table. I think there are several fighters at or around that weight that beat Cotto.

Like I said in another post, I don't believe Cotto has been the same since Margarito I. He seems fragile. In addition, I don't think he's any better at 154 than he was 147. I actually think at 154 he's probably more beatable because of his size. He's too small for a big junior middleweight.

Well the only challenge for Floyd at this point that might make him even remotely uncomfortable is Martinez at 160. I actually have a funny feeling he might go that route next. Roger hinted at it.
But beyond Pacquiao I cant think of a better fight at the moment than Cotto vs Floyd. His last fight he gave the young up and comer a shot at his throne and now he's giving it to a credible champion. I see nothing wrong with his opponent selection. (apart from the pathetic excuses both he and Pacquiao come up with for not getting it on but hey)

I don't really disagree given what's out there. Lara would be a tougher challenge than Cotto, but who wants to face Lara? He brings no money to the table and he's tough. One thing that bothers me is why is Cotto ranked number one at junior middleweight? He hasn't faced anyone in the top ten.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

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Every person that's on Floyd's nuts right now doesn't seem to realize his cherry picking ways. far above the level of fighters cotto has fought recently, don't think the

Shane was still shot. Margarito's golden wraps were taken, of course he wasn't going to win the fight. Marquez was top level, but he wasn't good for the weight. He hadn't taken the proper time to go up to the weight like he did in his last fight with Manny. Ortiz is crap. Plain crap. The only victory that gives him any light is the one against Berto. Berto sucks, too. The both of them collectively suck at boxing. But the point stands. In his entire career, Ortiz had ONE notable victory. ONE. Don't even try to tell me that he was top level.


Also, Cotto was not weight drained for the Pac fight, fellas. He was one pound lighter. One pound. In the fight before Manny, he was at 146, and against Manny he weighed 145. There should be a minimum two pound weight loss before we should even halfheartedly joke that somebody is weight drained.

You know what collectively sucks? Your posting coupled with your mates fighting each other on youtube in some caravan site..For some reason..like many on this site, you're totally and irrationally butthurt about Floyd.

I agree with Lyle here. How the furk is Cotto anywhere near shot or damaged goods? I haven't seen him slip..I've seen his style change for sure. He's on his toes a lot more but that's a great adjustment on his part, no? Better defense. Sure he doesn't work the body as hard but the dude can box and box well! I don't give a shit what people say about the Pacquiao fight either because if Cotto was such easy pickings why did Pacquiao want to drain him again at 145 for the rematch?? And if it wasn't a problem for Cotto why did Cotto refuse this time round? He clearly DOESN'T feel comfy at 145 regardless of what you, as fans might say.

Two things piss me off about this thread. Boxing fans disrespect about Cotto and once again the hindsight that Shane was "shot" and that his win over "Margarito" was a given. Gtfo of here!! How many of you picked him to win? "Oh Margaritos head wasn't in it"...sure whatever you say.
These are the same cry babies that said "Omg Floyd MUST MUST MUST fight Shane!! He's scared..he's duckin n dodging him!!"......Then he signs up to fight him.."Oh erm..respect I guess. Didnt think Floyd would step up"

Of course he does a number on him and Shane got old "Mid fight" Never heard that one before??

If you could hear yourselves you'd slap yourself in the face for being so retarded.

You guys are the biggest Floyd fans of all if you think this fight is gonna be a stroll in the park for him. You guys obviously rate him highly!

If it does end up being a stroll for him, then damn...he's good. Straight up.

Alright, mate. Lets have a rational discussion about this. To aid us, we'll use numbered points.

1. My sparring session with my buddy has nothing to do with anything. Nothing at all. I live in South Dakota. We have more cows than people. I could very well be using my time by doing copious amounts of drugs, or something neat like that. Why does that video bother you so much?

2. Irrationally butthurt about Floyd? My problem with Floyd is that everybody is rating him too highly. There's a lot of boxing fans out there that are saying that Floyd is going to make easy work of Cotto, as if Cotto isn't the best fighter he's fought in four years. Cotto has an excellent resume and an excellent set of skills, but because of his fights with Margarito and Pac, they're choosing to believe he's over the hill. I firmly believe them to be mistaken. Will Cotto win? Probably not, but I really do hope so. He's a lot better than people are giving him credit for. I don't like Floyd as a person, but he's gained a lot of my respect by fighting Cotto, as well as my $60 for the PPV next Saturday. As a fighter, he's a genius, and he deserves a good portion of the praise he gets.

3. You make a very valid point about Cotto being comfortable with his weight, but I don't see much evidence suggesting that the one pound weight difference was so immediate in effect. In the long term, of course, there is a reason that he moved up to the Light Middleweight division.

4. I agree with your points about the boxing fans. But I honestly don't remember there being such a clamor in the boxing community to see Shane vs. Mayweather. Of course, my memory has been wrong before.

Cheers.

[DavilaJones]

In some ways this fight remeinds me of Martinez vs Macklin. Everyone expected Macklin to fight the way he normally does and he did something truly unexpected and I think won quite a few rounds too vs the champ.

The trick is to do something no one expects you to do and execute that plan well. In my mind the only thing I can think of is if Cotto forces Mayweather to press and increase his punch output then he would gain an advantage simply by the fact that he's forcing his opponent to conform to his game plan.

This being said the most important part is to execute the plan well. I do not know if he can do this consistently for 12 rounds and be successful.

[Master]

In some ways this fight remeinds me of Martinez vs Macklin. Everyone expected Macklin to fight the way he normally does and he did something truly unexpected and I think won quite a few rounds too vs the champ.

The trick is to do something no one expects you to do and execute that plan well. In my mind the only thing I can think of is if Cotto forces Mayweather to press and increase his punch output then he would gain an advantage simply by the fact that he's forcing his opponent to conform to his game plan.

This being said the most important part is to execute the plan well. I do not know if he can do this consistently for 12 rounds and be successful.

100% agree, Cotto needs a good strategy to win the rounds one at a time. Simple in theory, difficult in practice especially against Floyd.