pac @ 17.... pics.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

[alqaqa]

peds i think floyd is just talking bull, pac agreed olympic rondom test
and than he came with the bullshit 40 mil garantee for pac floyd fight and he knew pac would never agree

[Althugz]

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

No, not steroids, Growth Hormone like I said if it is abused. Which is the same thing Roach keeps banging on about being undectable so tests are "pointless" - Coincidence?

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

And Mayweather has the disrespect to claim that Pac is a definite roider.

Are you saying these pictures prove anything?

I'd have to guess that your knowledge of PEDs is nonexistant if you are.

The pictures don't prove anything, but they show how thin Manny was and how much he was underfed, which explains how he weighed so little.

It's much more just a jab at Mayweather for being ignorant and making judgements without knowing the facts.

Mayweather claims:

-Manny started his professional boxing career so little and is now much bigger.

Reality is:

-Manny started boxing when he was 16. When Mayweather was 16 years old, he weighed the same as Manny did, and Manny was little and underfed, and Floyd wasn't.
-Floyd has gained more weight and muscle mass than Manny. So it would suggest that Mayweather would have a greater chance of having to take steroids than Manny.

Floyd makes a lot of uneducated statements.

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

No, not steroids, Growth Hormone like I said if it is abused. Which is the same thing Roach keeps banging on about being undectable so tests are "pointless" - Coincidence?

Has Pac's head really grown all that much? His head probably continued growing a bit since he was 17.

[Pavlik]

It's funny how Floyd brought up the PED's issue on the postfight interview after the Cotto fight, it's not even an issue anymore PAC has long agreed in taking the tests. You know what I'll be insecured too if I see a former stringy boxer like that do great in life. Like a former pick packer become a Physiotherapist

[AdamGB]

And Mayweather has the disrespect to claim that Pac is a definite roider.

Are you saying these pictures prove anything?

I'd have to guess that your knowledge of PEDs is nonexistant if you are.

The pictures don't prove anything, but they show how thin Manny was and how much he was underfed, which explains how he weighed so little.

It's much more just a jab at Mayweather for being ignorant and making judgements without knowing the facts.

Mayweather claims:

-Manny started his professional boxing career so little and is now much bigger.

Reality is:

-Manny started boxing when he was 16. When Mayweather was 16 years old, he weighed the same as Manny did, and Manny was little and underfed, and Floyd wasn't.
-Floyd has gained more weight and muscle mass than Manny. So it would suggest that Mayweather would have a greater chance of having to take steroids than Manny.

Floyd makes a lot of uneducated statements.

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

No, not steroids, Growth Hormone like I said if it is abused. Which is the same thing Roach keeps banging on about being undectable so tests are "pointless" - Coincidence?

Has Pac's head really grown all that much? His head probably continued growing a bit since he was 17.

PEDs aren't all about 'size' or weight. Being skinny at 17 doesn't disprove the use of say a stimulant or EPO etc.

For me it's not about his size, he's not that big. But the list of contradicting excuses for not taking a blood test have to raise eyebrows.

[Slim the BoxingManiac]

And Mayweather has the disrespect to claim that Pac is a definite roider.

Are you saying these pictures prove anything?

I'd have to guess that your knowledge of PEDs is nonexistant if you are.

The pictures don't prove anything, but they show how thin Manny was and how much he was underfed, which explains how he weighed so little.

It's much more just a jab at Mayweather for being ignorant and making judgements without knowing the facts.

Mayweather claims:

-Manny started his professional boxing career so little and is now much bigger.

Reality is:

-Manny started boxing when he was 16. When Mayweather was 16 years old, he weighed the same as Manny did, and Manny was little and underfed, and Floyd wasn't.
-Floyd has gained more weight and muscle mass than Manny. So it would suggest that Mayweather would have a greater chance of having to take steroids than Manny.

Floyd makes a lot of uneducated statements.

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

No, not steroids, Growth Hormone like I said if it is abused. Which is the same thing Roach keeps banging on about being undectable so tests are "pointless" - Coincidence?

Has Pac's head really grown all that much? His head probably continued growing a bit since he was 17.

PEDs aren't all about 'size' or weight. Being skinny at 17 doesn't disprove the use of say a stimulant or EPO etc.

For me it's not about his size, he's not that big. But the list of contradicting excuses for not taking a blood test have to raise eyebrows.

No, you miss the point. I was just pointing out that it isn't that incredible how much weight he's gained since the beginning of his career. In fact, Mayweather has grown more.

Also, there's been a lot of bullshit coming from the Mayweather camp on the testing. There isn't any real basis for the whole 'Pac refuses to take a blood test' argument. It's just a claim thrown out by the erroneous Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[AdamGB]

Neither man has enough muscle mass for 'size' to be any sort of probable cause.

[Chino]

Also, there's been a lot of bullshit coming from the Mayweather camp on the testing. There isn't any real basis for the whole 'Pac refuses to take a blood test' argument. It's just a claim thrown out by the erroneous Floyd Mayweather Jr.

So you never heard of Pac, his team, and Bob Arum saying things such as: Pac is afraid of needles, blood makes him nervous, having blood draw makes him weak and he can’t train properly, a nurse might hurt his arm, etc.?

[Kirkland Laing]

Is there any sort of research that ties head growth with steroid usage at all?

It's that A-side meth. It makes you impossible to kill and makes your head swell up like a pumpkin. It's all been documented by top doctors. You can look it up on the internet.