Khan wants belts returned

[Althugz]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

[Fenster]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

Your post said - Why are people bothered about a man that got caught cheating when a man that has never been caught cheating is an obvious cheat.

I just replied to the incredibly naive bit that claimed - if a man asks for stricter drugs testing then he clearly can't be a cheat.

One born every minute springs to mind....

[p4pking]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

Your post said - Why are people bothered about a man that got caught cheating when a man that has never been caught cheating is an obvious cheat.

I just replied to the incredibly naive bit that claimed - if a man asks for stricter drugs testing then he clearly can't be a cheat.

One born every minute springs to mind....

As I understood it, he meant that Peterson voluntarily took the tougher tests, as in he didn't have to. It's at least possible imo, that he felt all of his bloodwork would come back normal. I know you just equate this to his feeling he could cheat the tests, but I think that might in fact be naive if the substance in itself isn't detectable.

[p4pking]

And as an aside, had Peterson simply chosen so, he would've probably only had to take a piss test and the fight would still be on. Then it would just be another guy on something that no one ever finds out about, like half of the elite fighters out there.

[Althugz]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

Your post said - Why are people bothered about a man that got caught cheating when a man that has never been caught cheating is an obvious cheat.

I just replied to the incredibly naive bit that claimed - if a man asks for stricter drugs testing then he clearly can't be a cheat.

One born every minute springs to mind....

As I understood it, he meant that Peterson voluntarily took the tougher tests, as in he didn't have to. It's at least possible imo, that he felt all of his bloodwork would come back normal. I know you just equate this to his feeling he could cheat the tests, but I think that might in fact be naive if the substance in itself isn't detectable.

Another star for you my man. You got it in one again and saved me having to dumb myself down to respond to Fenster. Kudos.

[Master]

Khan is a whiny fucker, just give him the belts and he can get back to the boxing and GBP getting him an easy match for June.

[Fenster]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

Your post said - Why are people bothered about a man that got caught cheating when a man that has never been caught cheating is an obvious cheat.

I just replied to the incredibly naive bit that claimed - if a man asks for stricter drugs testing then he clearly can't be a cheat.

One born every minute springs to mind....

As I understood it, he meant that Peterson voluntarily took the tougher tests, as in he didn't have to. It's at least possible imo, that he felt all of his bloodwork would come back normal. I know you just equate this to his feeling he could cheat the tests, but I think that might in fact be naive if the substance in itself isn't detectable.

It says here the test was random.

Lamont Peterson-Amir Khan canceled after failed urine test - ESPN

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by "voluntarily?" Any athlete refusing a drug test would immediately put themselves under suspicion? That would never even be an option. Surely?

[p4pking]

I love how the Pacquiao fans are all up in arms about Petersons PED use...Same guy who volunteered for stricter tests whilst Pac has never even taken a proper drugs test before and you all defended his decision. Double standard mofos..

This is a very weak argument (I saw it made in another thread too).

When has any athlete in history ever asked for softer drugs testing? It would be utterly moronic for any athlete to not publicly give their approval to stricter drug laws. Even the proven cheats spout this.

The fact Peterson already passed a test with a different body just makes him look more guilty. He thought he had beat the testing procedure.

Your counter argument had zero relevance to what my post said..

Your post said - Why are people bothered about a man that got caught cheating when a man that has never been caught cheating is an obvious cheat.

I just replied to the incredibly naive bit that claimed - if a man asks for stricter drugs testing then he clearly can't be a cheat.

One born every minute springs to mind....

As I understood it, he meant that Peterson voluntarily took the tougher tests, as in he didn't have to. It's at least possible imo, that he felt all of his bloodwork would come back normal. I know you just equate this to his feeling he could cheat the tests, but I think that might in fact be naive if the substance in itself isn't detectable.

It says here the test was random.

Lamont Peterson-Amir Khan canceled after failed urine test - ESPN

Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by "voluntarily?" Any athlete refusing a drug test would immediately put themselves under suspicion? That would never even be an option. Surely?

I was quite a ways off here then, I think the first article I read about it was a bit less clear on the testing. It does say that Peterson insisted on there being random blood and urine testing(the imbecile), that's the bit that was voluntary then I assume. It turns out he actually failed on a urine test though, which makes sense if the synthetic stuff can be traced seperately as Shza said. That also makes my point about the blood and actual levels of the hormone completely moot, but it explains why Peterson may not have had a problem with more stringent testing in his mind.
I think this means the bigger issue is whether he actually tested clean for the first fight or somehow even got around having to submit so much as a piss sample Either way I still say they have to put the onus on commissions to be consistent and thorough with testing fighters rather than punish anyone after the fact. It sounds as though this stuff would be dead easy to test for, it's not like a BALCO case where he was using something more advanced. As long as he was cleared to fight the first time around there is not only no evidence to overturn the decision, but neither is there any to be certain that Khan himself was clean.

[Dia bando]

Trouble is sport is open to PHD, boxing is just one sport when people are training they use a more scientific approach fitness nutrition etc . Some people are using a more scientific approach to cheat
I find it hard to believe these people plead there innocences, when they are surrounded by experts
it just a load of bollocks.