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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    TitoFan,

    1. I didn't add my signature.

    2. I agree that Hatton would almost certainly get sparked out in a rematch with Pac. He was so emphatically annihilated that it's virtually ludicrous to imagine a scenario where he can reverse the situation. But the same goes for Cotto too. The only real reason Cotto made the 12th round before being knocked out is because he has self-preservation instincts. Once he realised Pac was far superior he did everything in his power to survive.

    Hatton is far braver/dumber (whatever one chooses to believe) than Cotto. He would rather go out on his shield than concede/quit/survive.

    So in conclusion - I see no positives Cotto can draw from the first fight regardless of the trainer/weight "excuses." I also believe Cotto's impressive self-preservation instincts means he wouldn't even dare fight Pac again.

    It's just my opinion though. Fact.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    TitoFan,

    1. I didn't add my signature.

    2. I agree that Hatton would almost certainly get sparked out in a rematch with Pac. He was so emphatically annihilated that it's virtually ludicrous to imagine a scenario where he can reverse the situation. But the same goes for Cotto too. The only real reason Cotto made the 12th round before being knocked out is because he has self-preservation instincts. Once he realised Pac was far superior he did everything in his power to survive.

    Hatton is far braver/dumber (whatever one chooses to believe) than Cotto. He would rather go out on his shield than concede/quit/survive.

    So in conclusion - I see no positives Cotto can draw from the first fight regardless of the trainer/weight "excuses." I also believe Cotto's impressive self-preservation instincts means he wouldn't even dare fight Pac again.

    It's just my opinion though. Fact.





    I'm making an honest effort to find some common ground here, but.......
    Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    TitoFan,

    1. I didn't add my signature.

    2. I agree that Hatton would almost certainly get sparked out in a rematch with Pac. He was so emphatically annihilated that it's virtually ludicrous to imagine a scenario where he can reverse the situation. But the same goes for Cotto too. The only real reason Cotto made the 12th round before being knocked out is because he has self-preservation instincts. Once he realised Pac was far superior he did everything in his power to survive.

    Hatton is far braver/dumber (whatever one chooses to believe) than Cotto. He would rather go out on his shield than concede/quit/survive.

    So in conclusion - I see no positives Cotto can draw from the first fight regardless of the trainer/weight "excuses." I also believe Cotto's impressive self-preservation instincts means he wouldn't even dare fight Pac again.

    It's just my opinion though. Fact.
    Actually, it was Pac who didn't dare fight Cotto again, hence why Cotto vs Mayweather even happened. Manny wanted it at 145 again during negotiations..which kind of proves the opposite of what you're saying. Pac daren't fight Cotto at any weight but 145

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Cotto-Floyd happened after Cotto point blank REFUSED to rematch Pac below light-middle. He even admitted no amount of money would get him down to 147. (Cotto: I Will Not Sacrifice My Body Again For Pacquiao! - Boxing News)

    He had the chance to rematch Pac but clearly his impressive self-preservation instincts kicked in.

    Nothing to be ashamed of. Fact.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Cotto-Floyd happened after Cotto point blank REFUSED to rematch Pac below light-middle. He even admitted no amount of money would get him down to 147. (Cotto: I Will Not Sacrifice My Body Again For Pacquiao! - Boxing News)

    He had the chance to rematch Pac but clearly his impressive self-preservation instincts kicked in.

    Nothing to be ashamed of. Fact.

    Is that your new catch-phrase now? Kinda like a "back-handed compliment" type of thing? You're so f*cking laughable, not to mention predictable.

    If you were worth my time......... I'd argue how it's normal for a fighter to try to survive through a rough period in a fight, so he can have a chance to come back later and win the fight...... versus going "all balls out" recklessly only to get KTFO'ed (like Hatton did). I'd argue that the purpose of the fight is to try to WIN the fight, not to get spectacularly KTFO'ed. I'd argue that most if not all top fighters have had to go into a defensive mode to clear their heads, while they gather their wits and continue with their gameplan.

    But..... you're not worth my time.


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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Sorry TitoFan... I'm only offering my opinion. Fact.

    I agree 100% that Hatton's approach to fighting - heroic, bulldog bravery, bit like a drunk is very naive compared with Cotto's intelligent self-preservation skills.

    If Hatton possessed the same self-preservation skills that Cotto has he might have lasted longer against Pac.

    The truth is though - whether you are heroic/reckless/drunk like Hatton or a self-preservation expert like Cotto, they both got one-sided thrashings against the far superior Pacster. Fact.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    Do me a favor... don't compare Hatton to Cotto. My only regret is that never met in the ring. It would've been ugly. I respect your opinion. My opinion... AGAIN... is that Hatton would've gotten separated from his senses 100 times out of 100 by Pac. Cotto, with a different trainer in the corner, would probably give Pac a much better fight than he did the first time around. But we've been round-and-round... and are probably boring the good folks in this forum. Sort of like......





    Only way to sort this out is if they were to ever make the rematch (Pac-Cotto), which you claim Cotto is "scared" to seek.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather reminds me of:

    I never said Cotto is "scared" of Pac just that his superior self-preservation instincts automatically rule him out. Have they rematched? No. Did Cotto have a chance at revenge? Yes. Did he refuse? Yes. So i'm right unless they fight again. Fact.

    Listen TitoFan dude.. You started the Cotto-Hatton comparision. I agree Pac wins 100 out of 100.

    I also agree Cotto-Hatton at 140 would have been ugly. If Cotto was getting knocked doolally against Corley and Torres how would he possibly have kept a prime Hatton off him? Even with his superb self-preservation skills there's no way Hatton doesn't force him to quit. It would look like Cotto-Margarito 1.

    I'm basing this purely on the evidence available to me. It's just my humble opinion. Fact.
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