A Close Look At David Haye vs. Dereck Chisora

[erics44]

Just read it and you havent really put anything about how their styles will work against each other, just that Haye is better so he should win.

I totally dissagree. Haye has really done nothing at heavyweight to say if hes any good at the weight. The major proof being the pathetic falling down and non competative fight against Wlad. Haye has no defence and only throws one shot at a time, he hasnt fought anyone that would make him work at a pace as he has got crap stamina and would tire.

I sad this about Vitali v Chisora before the fight, that Gitali would tire after being made to work and he did and always would have, not because of his age but because he always has, when made to work.

In my eyes, Chisora is the more skilled. He can move his upper body to avoid being hit amd thows lots of shots that actually land and doesnt fall over. He also has a heavyweights chin.

If Haye fought Helenius of Vitali hed get knocked out and wouldnt be able to push them like Chisora did. I think even Fury would make a twat out of Haye. There is a reason Haye didnt take on any younger contenderrs at heavyweight. He wanted a safe route to a title shot. If Chisora was sen as a big puncher Haye wouldnt go anywhere near him. As it is I reckon he has made a mistake. Chisora will be in Hayes face and bustling him around when Haye will start to to slow down until he either gets stopped or more likely, to save face, retires with some injury between rounds late on. The power he has, will quickly fade as hes made to work and pressured.

ross will haye have done "anything at heavyweight" if he beats chisora?

[ross]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

[erics44]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

[Althugz]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

I've seen it all when eric is telling people they know nothing aboit boxing...

[AdamGB]

I will say one thing - Even thinking Vitali was getting older didn't help Chisora's chances with me. I didn't think he'd see the middle of the fight. Can't write him off.

I'd be shocked if he did what Wlad couldn't do and stopped Haye though. I guess it will come down to the tactics of both guys. I just think Haye might be a little too rangey/mobile for Chisoras grit and strength to be a factor.

[Master]

Haye is a decent heavyweight with a suspect chin and a good right hand. He was never good enough to beat Wlad who has size, experience and skills to beat him. There was no shame in losing to Wlad who is simply the best but Hayes effort was awful and his lame excuse was frankly embarrassing. Chisora has a chance because he has a good chin and makes people work but he definitely lacks a punch so think Haye may nick a decision. Either way Haye will have redeemed himself from his last effort.

[erics44]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

I've seen it all when eric is telling people they know nothing aboit boxing...

ha for once i see you point, its a bit of a daft thing to say that someone knows nothing about boxing as its all opinions after all

its just a bit of a farout opinion

chisora has got to the top by default

The HW schene was lacking in numbers, his best wins were against a very ordinary Sam Sexton who isnt good enough to win the british title, on the back of that he gets a shot as the number one HW on the planet, and that doesnt come off

he loses to tyson fury then to helenius and then every round to vitali, ok he was robbed against helenius and his effort was decent against vitali

yes david haye is a penis but he is also very skillful powerful and fast fighter and is everybit world class, he has deserved the fights he has got on performance and has won the fights convincingly

its like when millwall got to the FA cup final a few years back, they did what they had to to get there, beat who was put infront of them but had the luck of the draw and once there it was a walk in the park for united

[ross]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

I've seen it all when eric is telling people they know nothing aboit boxing...

ha for once i see you point, its a bit of a daft thing to say that someone knows nothing about boxing as its all opinions after all

its just a bit of a farout opinion

chisora has got to the top by default

The HW schene was lacking in numbers, his best wins were against a very ordinary Sam Sexton who isnt good enough to win the british title, on the back of that he gets a shot as the number one HW on the planet, and that doesnt come off

he loses to tyson fury then to helenius and then every round to vitali, ok he was robbed against helenius and his effort was decent against vitali

yes david haye is a penis but he is also very skillful powerful and fast fighter and is everybit world class, he has deserved the fights he has got on performance and has won the fights convincingly

its like when millwall got to the FA cup final a few years back, they did what they had to to get there, beat who was put infront of them but had the luck of the draw and once there it was a walk in the park for united

Thats football where someone else picks which teams you play against. This is pro boxing where Haye chose who he wanted to fight and "what could Haye have done to have done something at heavy?" He could have fought Chambers, Johnson, Areola or Adameck. Rather than journeymen retired never was's that he did.

[erics44]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

I've seen it all when eric is telling people they know nothing aboit boxing...

ha for once i see you point, its a bit of a daft thing to say that someone knows nothing about boxing as its all opinions after all

its just a bit of a farout opinion

chisora has got to the top by default

The HW schene was lacking in numbers, his best wins were against a very ordinary Sam Sexton who isnt good enough to win the british title, on the back of that he gets a shot as the number one HW on the planet, and that doesnt come off

he loses to tyson fury then to helenius and then every round to vitali, ok he was robbed against helenius and his effort was decent against vitali

yes david haye is a penis but he is also very skillful powerful and fast fighter and is everybit world class, he has deserved the fights he has got on performance and has won the fights convincingly

its like when millwall got to the FA cup final a few years back, they did what they had to to get there, beat who was put infront of them but had the luck of the draw and once there it was a walk in the park for united

Thats football where someone else picks which teams you play against. This is pro boxing where Haye chose who he wanted to fight and "what could Haye have done to have done something at heavy?" He could have fought Chambers, Johnson, Areola or Adameck. Rather than journeymen retired never was's that he did.

crackin fighters them

really are the cream of the heavies, haye would have definately arrived if he fought one of those

p.s. didnt chisora put up a much better performance than both areola and adamek against vitali? yet he doesnt get any credit for fighting chiz?

[TitoFan]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

The real issue here, Eric, is that the only time Haye has faced a heavyweight of any considerable merit... he put on a pathetic, pitiful performance... one that should've resulted in his getting his purse withheld.

Don't let the desire to finally have a British HW worth the price of admission (since Lennox Lewis) cloud your judgement. Valuev, his gigantic size aside, wasn't much more than a circus act.... a very forgettable HW when all is said and done. And John Ruiz is very likely one of the worst HW champions in history, with the distinction of getting his ass handed to him by not one, but TWO lightheavies. So a good HW resume Haye definitely does NOT have.

And when he finally gets the shot he was so loudly shouting for? He embarrasses himself in a cowardly show. Yes... he has a lot of redeeming to do. Chisora? Tough guy, maybe. But hardly worth mentioning. He's lost 3 out of his last 4 fights. And with less than 20 fights to his credit, I'd hardly call him a household name.

Someone already called it right. A potentially good scrap between two losers.

[ninjaspy3]

No!

Dont worry, it wont happen.

For Chisora to last a 12 round beat down, hed have to be fighting someone capable of fighting hard for 12 rounds. Haye hasnt and cant. Chisora pushed the biggest, strongest and most agressive fighter in the heavy division in his last fight, I think he can handle a former cruiser whith a broken toe.

honestly dude, the only people who think chisora has any chance of beating haye are people who know little about boxing or are letting persoanlities get in the way of their judgement

btw, what does haye have to do to have done "anything" at heavyweight?

The real issue here, Eric, is that the only time Haye has faced a heavyweight of any considerable merit... he put on a pathetic, pitiful performance... one that should've resulted in his getting his purse withheld.

Don't let the desire to finally have a British HW worth the price of admission (since Lennox Lewis) cloud your judgement. Valuev, his gigantic size aside, wasn't much more than a circus act.... a very forgettable HW when all is said and done. And John Ruiz is very likely one of the worst HW champions in history, with the distinction of getting his ass handed to him by not one, but TWO lightheavies. So a good HW resume Haye definitely does NOT have.

And when he finally gets the shot he was so loudly shouting for? He embarrasses himself in a cowardly show. Yes... he has a lot of redeeming to do. Chisora? Tough guy, maybe. But hardly worth mentioning. He's lost 3 out of his last 4 fights. And with less than 20 fights to his credit, I'd hardly call him a household name.

Someone already called it right. A potentially good scrap between two losers.

It's a little misleading the way in which you present the situation.

Firstly I think you have exaggerated how bad Haye's performance was. Sure, it wasn't great, but having his purse witheld? Come on now.

Secondly, Haye may not have a good resume at HW but that alone doesn't mean that he's no good. It simply means he is not thouroughly tested. It is possible he could beat a good number of the other heavy weights not named Klitschko, but it is unknown.

Thirdly, Chisora may have lost 3 of his last 4 fights, but the recent loss was to Vitali. No shame there. The loss before that shouldn't have been a loss. The first loss to Fury.. that one we can definitely count against him as it seems he didn't come to the fight in proper shape. So really only 1 of his 3 losses is a bad one.

A fight between two losers? Hardly. If that's the case, then most of the other fights at HW not involving the Klitschko brothers are going to be between the so-called "losers."