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Talking about Bute's short comings.
Textbook.

I agree about Ward, his ugly and adaptable style will give anybody trouble... Including his promoters. I think he will end up a side show in the division he owns... He's just not very watchable.

Good thing the division does have guys like Froch and Kessler, or else the super middles would have a void of talent and be getting dominated by one ugly to watch fighter like a mini heavyweight division
Must be why fights in Oakland as much as he does. As no problem selling out there.

Froch and Kessler are good action fighters. But there not the divisions best. Why you think Kessler has mover to Light Heavyweight even though he has no problem making 168? He knows he'll never beat Ward

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Carl Froch's win. Actually Carl Froch's ass whipping of Lucian Bute revealed 2 surprising facts. I never considered Bute to have an iron chin. But I at least thought he had one. He doesn't. His speed and reflexes have gotten him by. He had been hurt twice going into the Froch. The Andrade one was blamed on exhaustion. The other one against Sakio Bika has been pretty much ignored. It shouldn't of been.

The other surprising fact is I had no idea the gap between Andre Ward and the rest of the Super Middleweights was that big. It is fucking huge. I don't see anybody in the division who can at least make it competitive against Ward. Let alone beat him. Froch can make all the excuses that he wasn't "firing on all cylinders". Kessler can blame the officials. Doesn't really matter. The outcome wouldn't be any different.
I'd say he has a pretty fucking iron chin, he took about 50 shots clean on the button and never went down - but I'm sure that's becuase Froch is feather fisted
Yeah because staggering and stumbling every time you take a solid shot are indeed characteristics of an iron chin.