Non-British perspective: Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe

[Dia bando]

Behave @Althugz your points about Calzaghe have been refuted a million times. Nothing you say is new. This same Calzaghe stuff has been going on long before 2004 (when I joined this forum). I was actually a Calzaghe critic back in those days. Things change though. The guy had a lull in his career but came good in the end.

Your "problem" is you get to emotionally affected by these debates. When people refute your points you resort to personal insults that have nothing to do with the actual topic (I know people have chucked personal insults at you too).

At the end of the day, no-one ever accepts they're wrong and it's nothing more than a pointless boxing nerds debate that means absolutely nothing. Fact.

Well we can both agree with your last statement - However, I accepted I was wrong about the Roy Jones thing didn't I?

If I was so emotional about JC, I wouldn't have been the first to give him his props for the Kessler victory. That was his best win in my opinion when you weigh up the performance, Kesslers prime and ranking.

You are probably the only one who tries to refute my points, I'm just sorry that I disagree with your defence for Calzaghes poor opposition. Some clearly agree with you, some agree with me.

You love to play people with your little mind game's, now you feel you are sweetness and light it don't wash with me.If I was insulting a fighter from your country I would expect to be challenged, don't through shit and expect not to get some back.After most of your posts Fuck Calzaghe grow up how old are you it's like me after ever post saying your a Fuck in JACKASS.

[p4pking]

Froch and Calzaghe are both bum fighter like black Lacy.

[Dia bando]

Froch and Calzaghe are both bum fighter like black Lacy.

You are taking the piss.

[p4pking]

No, Kessler are cheated against both English bum. Only he are easy fighter to like.

[BIG H]

This is why it's so easy to like Froch

[Althugz]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

[TitoFan]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

Uh-oh........ I'm screwed.

[Dia bando]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

Thank you your cheque is in the post

[Fenster]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

As I said in the previous post - It's not about winning it's just about alternative opinions. I merely stated a counter argument to your claim that Froch now ranks above Calzaghe.

To your credit, I saw Glyn Leach (Boxing Monthly editor) post on twitter that he now believes Froch is ahead of Calzaghe in the supermiddle standings (as well as some other journos). So I was wrong to call your argument nonsensical.

Although I do believe my argument is superior. Fact.

[Althugz]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

As I said in the previous post - It's not about winning it's just about alternative opinions. I merely stated a counter argument to your claim that Froch now ranks above Calzaghe.

To your credit, I saw Glyn Leach (Boxing Monthly editor) post on twitter that he now believes Froch is ahead of Calzaghe in the supermiddle standings (as well as some other journos). So I was wrong to call your argument nonsensical.

Although I do believe my argument is superior. Fact.

I'm glad you can admit to slinging the first insult by calling my perfectly valid argument "nonsensical"

Opinions are perfectly fine - and many oppose my own on this matter. Just haven't heard one on this forum that makes me even think twice about JC's legacy. Unfortunately the counter argument of "Jackass" and "Waif" don't seem to do it either. Strange that..

[Fenster]

Althugz,

Hold up a minute...How is calling an argument "nonsense" a personal insult? I gave valid reasons why I believed it was nonsense. Nothing I said wavered from the topic and in no way was a personal insult aimed at anyone.That's not my style.

It's simply the way debates work. I counter the argument and the onus is back on you.

I still believe Froch over Calzaghe is wrong. However, I understand the angle people are coming from

[TitoFan]

Althugz,

Hold up a minute...How is calling an argument "nonsense" a personal insult? I gave valid reasons why I believed it was nonsense. Nothing I said wavered from the topic and in no way was a personal insult aimed at anyone.That's not my style.

It's simply the way debates work. I counter the argument and the onus is back on you.

I still believe Froch over Calzaghe is wrong. However, I understand the angle people are coming from

Uhh.... you forgot to add "Fact" there, sport.

Seriously tho, this has become a very heated and emotional feeding frenzy here. Look back at the title of my thread. It says very clearly: "Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe." No more... no less. So spewing out all of Calzaghe's stats is truly unnecessary here, don't you think? And I stand by my statement, as I'm sure lots of other Calzaghe non-sympathizers will agree.

And you seemed to have an issue with my point regarding Calzaghe's style of fighting, whereupon you immediately brought up his "however-many-stoppages" he's had. If you were truly being objective about it, I'm sure you'd agree with my point regarding Calzaghe's pitty-patter style, and how it makes for ugly, non-crowd-pleasing fights. But since you're a "big bad MOD", and like to spew out all your opinions with your signature "Fact" line..... you think you can ramrod your opinion down people's throats. By the way... that IS a fact. Thankfully, not everyone backs down from your overbearing style.



But hey.... no problem. That's what this forum's all about. People disagreeing all the time. Otherwise, where would the fun be? Hell, if I had a dollar for everytime I got into an argument with someone around here, I'd be retired by now.

Oh...... and Calzaghe's undefeated record doesn't mean shit to me, as I'm sure it doesn't mean shit to most true boxing fans. Why? Because it does not include the plethora of career-defining and/or great opponents that really define a fighter's career. Sorry Calzaghe fans. No hate involved here. Just an honest opinion. Slapping the shit out of Peter Manfredo doesn't do it for me.

Carry on.