I'm picking Bradley

[Pavlik]

a few years back Pac was being criticized for not fighting Bradley, they said this was "the" other guy outside of Mayweather and Marquez that can whooped him. Now he is garbage

[Majesty]

a few years back Pac was being criticized for not fighting Bradley, they said this was "the" other guy outside of Mayweather and Marquez that can whooped him. Now he is garbage

I don't think he's garbage, but for one this fight is at 147 and not 140, and for 2 he looked like crap against a high Casamayor, and for third he has become a serial flip flopper since joining Top Rank going back on every opinion he had about boxing prior. So it was evident from the moment he signed with Top Rank and started acting completely different that he was gonna fight Pacquiao next. So I expect him to have a 'bad night' like Clottey did anyway. I think Pac will look spectacular in beating him and everyone will scream "Pacman's back!" and all this other kind of stuff. That's all this fight really is imo. An opportunity for Pacquiao to look spectacular so they can salvage the thoughts of a mayweather fight that died down after Pacquiao's performance against Marquez and so mainstream can say "Well after this performance it was obvious he was distracted when he fought Marquez I mean look what he did to Bradley!!" It's a 'saving face' fight, nothing more nothing less.

[TitoFan]

a few years back Pac was being criticized for not fighting Bradley, they said this was "the" other guy outside of Mayweather and Marquez that can whooped him. Now he is garbage

I don't think he's garbage, but for one this fight is at 147 and not 140, and for 2 he looked like crap against a high Casamayor, and for third he has become a serial flip flopper since joining Top Rank going back on every opinion he had about boxing prior. So it was evident from the moment he signed with Top Rank and started acting completely different that he was gonna fight Pacquiao next. So I expect him to have a 'bad night' like Clottey did anyway. I think Pac will look spectacular in beating him and everyone will scream "Pacman's back!" and all this other kind of stuff. That's all this fight really is imo. An opportunity for Pacquiao to look spectacular so they can salvage the thoughts of a mayweather fight that died down after Pacquiao's performance against Marquez and so mainstream can say "Well after this performance it was obvious he was distracted when he fought Marquez I mean look what he did to Bradley!!" It's a 'saving face' fight, nothing more nothing less.

Ok fair enough... but what will you think if Bradley pulls off the upset? Not that he will... but what IF? Will it be "Bradley's better than I thought." or "Pac is crap."?

[p4pking]

Surely it depends how the fight goes, Titofan For what it's worth, I think Pacquiao definetly IS on the slide, but I also don't think Bradley is good enough to beat him currently and feel it's a good style for Manny. IF Bradley somehow wins, I'd imagine it would be a combination of his fighting out of his skin and Pacquiao being much worse for wear, but that's dumb to speculate on. If you watch each man of their best nights to date, Bradley doesn't have a single advantage, that's all I'm going by.

[Fenster]

Bradley is 4/1 to win (was slightly bigger a week or two ago so obviously some dough going on him).

I thought he had a decent chance when the fight was made. However, looking back on some of his highlights changed my mind. Bradley will end up exchanging with a man faster and much harder hitting than him. Bradley's rock solid but if Pac can hurt all the big dudes he's been fighting he can hurt Bradley too. Pac by KO (an obvious pick but also a betting proposition).

[TitoFan]

Surely it depends how the fight goes, Titofan For what it's worth, I think Pacquiao definetly IS on the slide, but I also don't think Bradley is good enough to beat him currently and feel it's a good style for Manny. IF Bradley somehow wins, I'd imagine it would be a combination of his fighting out of his skin and Pacquiao being much worse for wear, but that's dumb to speculate on. If you watch each man of their best nights to date, Bradley doesn't have a single advantage, that's all I'm going by.

You're absolutely right, p4p. It totally depends on how the fight goes. I'm just saying... if it turns out to be a spirited scrap, with Bradley overachieving beyond what his detractors say... but Pacquaio STILL beats him convincingly... IMO the knowledgeable boxing fan will give props to both, instead of churning out the standard post-fight lines about how Bradley was crap to begin with, and Pac deserves no credit.

If it's a lousy fight... and Bradley performs even below expectations... then yes... the aforementioned lines will be well warranted.

[DavilaJones]

I want Tim to win because his next fight vs Floyd is much easier to make. He'll agree to anything Floyd say just for the money and the chance to take his zero.

Aw for actually winning, if he can get pac to fight on his back foot he'll negate a big part of manny's power, also manny doesn't box too well going backward. However this runs the risk of running into a big punch.

I believe he is an underdog but a very very live one.

[Rantcatrat]

a few years back Pac was being criticized for not fighting Bradley, they said this was "the" other guy outside of Mayweather and Marquez that can whooped him. Now he is garbage

I don't think he's garbage, but for one this fight is at 147 and not 140, and for 2 he looked like crap against a high Casamayor, and for third he has become a serial flip flopper since joining Top Rank going back on every opinion he had about boxing prior. So it was evident from the moment he signed with Top Rank and started acting completely different that he was gonna fight Pacquiao next. So I expect him to have a 'bad night' like Clottey did anyway. I think Pac will look spectacular in beating him and everyone will scream "Pacman's back!" and all this other kind of stuff. That's all this fight really is imo. An opportunity for Pacquiao to look spectacular so they can salvage the thoughts of a mayweather fight that died down after Pacquiao's performance against Marquez and so mainstream can say "Well after this performance it was obvious he was distracted when he fought Marquez I mean look what he did to Bradley!!" It's a 'saving face' fight, nothing more nothing less.

@Majesty if the Mayweather-Pacquiao idea has died down, it's because the fans have become disillusioned. It's still the biggest fight in combat sports. Mayweather's performance against Cotto made the fight more likely to happen in my opinion, however.

If you are alleging a conspiracy that is one thing. However, if you are making the point that Bradley has no shot, I disagree.

Size won't be factor here either. Manny is not a big welterweight. Bradley has fought at 147 before and looked good there. Bradley fought for a spot on the Olympics at 152. He'll manage 147 just fine.

Bradley is more versatile than a swarming, coming forward fighter, which I believe you are insinuating. He has a good defensive skill set and good feet work. He can also go 12 rounds.

This has the potential to be a very good fight.