Are you for or against the monarchy?

[El Kabong]

Socialism doesn't work....it's been tried. It didn't work for the Nazi's, didn't work for the Soviets, and it won't work for anyone else.

If you look at the behavioral psychology of economics Capitalism is THE WAY. It encourages innovation, hard work, etc. Socialism doesn't give you incentive to work, quite the opposite actually, but you guys just never will figure that out because you're so busy hating those evil tricky rich people who stole their money and land and have handicapped the system to suit themselves.

[Gandalf]

Socialism doesn't work....it's been tried. It didn't work for the Nazi's, didn't work for the Soviets, and it won't work for anyone else.

If you look at the behavioral psychology of economics Capitalism is THE WAY. It encourages innovation, hard work, etc. Socialism doesn't give you incentive to work, quite the opposite actually, but you guys just never will figure that out because you're so busy hating those evil tricky rich people who stole their money and land and have handicapped the system to suit themselves.

Socialism works just fine and continues to work well in countless countries around the globe. Not all states are massively unequal dens where welfare is being stripped back in the name of austerity by fascistic right wing ideologues.

You need to work out the different between socialism and communism. The terms are not synonymous.

[Kirkland Laing]

Socialism doesn't work....it's been tried. It didn't work for the Nazi's, didn't work for the Soviets, and it won't work for anyone else.

If you look at the behavioral psychology of economics Capitalism is THE WAY. It encourages innovation, hard work, etc. Socialism doesn't give you incentive to work, quite the opposite actually, but you guys just never will figure that out because you're so busy hating those evil tricky rich people who stole their money and land and have handicapped the system to suit themselves.

The Nazis were socialist?

[Dia bando]

Socialism doesn't work....it's been tried. It didn't work for the Nazi's, didn't work for the Soviets, and it won't work for anyone else.

If you look at the behavioral psychology of economics Capitalism is THE WAY. It encourages innovation, hard work, etc. Socialism doesn't give you incentive to work, quite the opposite actually, but you guys just never will figure that out because you're so busy hating those evil tricky rich people who stole their money and land and have handicapped the system to suit themselves.

The Nazis were socialist?

I think you got that one WRONG.

[therealremi]

The Nazis were socialist?

Yes, they were and they didn't hide it (just what NSDAP stands for)*. Their policy of coercing the people in only one right direction is similar to what present day leftists do (they call themselves "liberals" for some reason). A book was written about this - I don't like to legitimize Wikipedia by quoting it but here it is:
Liberal Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
*But they weren't communists.

[Kirkland Laing]

The Nazis were socialist?

Yes, they were and they didn't hide it (just what NSDAP stands for)*. Their policy of coercing the people in only one right direction is similar to what present day leftists do (they call themselves "liberals" for some reason). A book was written about this - I don't like to legitimize Wikipedia by quoting it but here it is:
Liberal Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
*But they weren't communists.

So Hillary Clinton equates with Adolf Hitler? They advocate similar kinds of things? The Soviet Union used to be called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics but that doesn't mean it was run by Republicans. The economic philosophy by Mussolini, later Hitler and last but not least by Franco was a "corporatist" society. "Corporatism" was also called "socialism" from the days of Mussolini.

Italy, Portugal and Spain preserved some of the features of corporatism long after 1945. Spain was a corporatist society in many ways well into the early 1980s.



In the decade or so before the Nazis took power they fought pitched battles on the streets of Germany with socialists, rather like extreme right and left groups do in europe today. When the Nazis did seize power -- backed by all the major German industrial families, not something you'd expect to see with a socialist party -- the first thing they did was set up a concentration camp at Dachau, and the first people they sent to the camp were the country's socialist politicians, university professors, trades unionists and so on.

And the Zazis fought on the side of Franco, the fascist dictator, against lefties and socialists in the Spanish civil war.

[El Kabong]

The Spanish Civil War (which was an actual 'Civil War' unlike the misnomer the one in the United States is known for....if you want to know why they are different I'd be PLEASED to explain it to you) was between the Republicans and the Nationalists. The Republicans also had Nationalists helping them only they were Catalan & Basque Nationalists....the Soviets also helped the Republicans. As for The Nationalists the idea you can just call all of them "right wing" is a little silly....on some issues certainly they were right wing especially when it came to how much military they wanted, but I do not believe that either the Nationalists nor the Republicans figured to have a lot of liberty in their societies. Free Press wasn't going to work with the Nazi's or the Soviets....they just didn't do that. On either side if you were an individual that stood out you would get hammered down into place right quick.....or just murdered.

"I have come to think, especially since my trip to Spain, that civil liberties must be protected at every stage. In Spain I am sure that the introduction of GPU methods by the Communists did as much harm as their tank men, pilots and experienced military men did good. The trouble with an all powerful secret police in the hands of fanatics, or of anybody, is that once it gets started there's no stopping it until it has corrupted the whole body politic. I am afraid that's what's happening in Russia." - John Dos Pasos wrote that and I think it's a fair assessment of both the Soviets & the Nazi's

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I have no inclination one way or the other.

But in order to even out the polls, I voted FOR.

[Gandalf]

I have no inclination one way or the other.

But in order to even out the polls, I voted FOR.

Oh hilarious.

Now fuck off and die.