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    Default Re: Wow Manny looked like crap last night!

    From boxrec

    "Among the experts above, 77 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley. "

    "It's either corruption or incompetence. There'll be a rematch. It speaks to the corruption of the sport. The criminals will be rewarded" - ESPN's Teddy Atlas
    HBO's Jim Lampley referred to it as the "worst scoring he has every seen."
    "People, a great sport is now on a respirator. Boxing is presently a polluted playing field in every respect. Tonight was par for the course." - Lou DiBella
    "Okay well maybe not worse than my draw with Holyfield but still bad nonetheless." - Lennox Lewis
    "Bradley by split decision. I am shocked. I don't even know what to say. That was absolutely horrible" - ESPN's Dan Rafael
    Timothy Bradley after the fight suggested he will look at the fight replay to see if he won the fight
    Bob Arum (promoter of both Fighters) "Can you believe that? Unbelievable," "I went over to Bradley before the decision and he said, 'I tried hard but I couldn't beat the guy.'" "I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this [decision] was outrageous."

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    I was most shocked by Manny's punch output. It was abysmally low for him. He is all about intensity and high output and yet I think there were only 2 rounds where he got the output up to typical numbers. He simply wouldn't throw for most of a round and would then start winging in the last minute or less.

    He also doesn't know how to cut the ring and keep a fighter on the ropes. Either that or he doesn't have the legs to do so.

    Manny has been in the spotlight a while now and people have been observing him and the formula has been worked out. The weaknesses are there and along with Manny's declining activity he is very beatable.

    I no longer have any interest in Pac/Mayweather as I think it is now a foregone conclusion. The blueprint is there and Floyd would capitalize.

    You move and circle away from the powerhand, make sure you jab consistently and throw combinations to keep him guessing. Rinse and repeat. There are no new dimensions to Manny Pac. He just hits hard and has fast hands. Neutralise that and you have a decent shot.

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    Manny's power is overrated too. He scores flash knockdowns, but the Hatton KO has been shown to be an exception. Manny has solid power at JWW and above, but the myth of him being a monster is gone. He put Marquez down more at the lower weights and in recent fights he slows down a bundle to finish at a decision. He can hurt fighters by surprise, but he isn't blowing anyone away. He can beat you to the punch so fighters know not to trade recklessly as in the case of Hatton. Hatton told you what not to do against Manny. Another step in learning how to deal with Manny at the higher weights.

    Feed Manny someone who will stand there and he looks good. Give him someone with the merest hint of an IQ and he is befuddled. Amir Khan might well be able to beat Manny too. I don't say that with any particular satisfaction.

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    Default Re: Wow Manny looked like crap last night!

    Yes Manny looked ordinary the last couple fight maybe it could be a wear and tear in his entire career, i think he fight for lucrative payday every fight now win or lose he can make a lot to his pocket.

    Many of people amazed with punching power at lower weights maybe till welters, in reality he accustom to his agility and speed or with accumulation of punches specially when he is on welters, this (with Bradley)was his highest wiegh- in at Welters seem to hit a exactly at 147, supposedly he doesn't do that thing even at catch weight Marga at 150lbs he just weighs 144-ish at weigh ins.

    Overall i think he's bored i think since after Cotto/Margarito and the failure to meet with Floyd the past couple of years.

    I guess to agree with Floyd now, he should leave Bob Arum right away.

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    Default Re: Wow Manny looked like crap last night!

    I thought that, for much of the fight, Bradley looked confused and overmatched. Didn't know how to respond to Pac's speed advantage. But Pac let him off the hook by fighting in spurts and never really pushing an advantage gained by landing a telling blow. His pace slowed so much that he let Bradley not only back into the fight, but he let him take the initiative. At the end Bradley was the guy fighting like he was winning.
    I had the fight 116-112 Pac, but more or less talked myself into a 115-113. The decision suprised me, as I didn't see Bradley winning the fight. But a spilt or majority decision, with one judge calling it even would not have suprised me. Bradley didn't impress me at all, and neither did Pacquiao. Not much of a fight, really.

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    Default Re: Wow Manny looked like crap last night!

    pacs main weapon is his speed and stamina. no matter how hard you train both qualities will diminish with age and ring wear.

    from 6 punch combos non stop for 12 rounds he started pacing himself. he learnt how to move in, throw a bunch of punches then move out. if he still wants to prolong his career for a few more fights he must learn to pace and box more intelligently now.

    fighters who relies too much on speed and stamina often has short shelf life. he still has a few more fights but thats about it.

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