The EURO 2012 Thread

[Gandalf]

Bunch of blind Patriots. Biased eyes fail to look beyond mediocrity. It is the worst England team in many a decade.

There should never be a process of 'rebuilding'. To need a paradigm shift is a sign of serious mismanagement.

The fact is we simply don't have the players to build with and it certainly shouldn't be happening at an international tournament.

We don't know how to create chances beyond set plays. It is a glaring and obvious weakness.

You missed the chance that James Milner fluffed then, or the one that Mexis denied Welbeck from Johnsons cross?

If Milner scores (as he should have) it probably goes down as a top drawer performance. Given the fact that its opening game and no one wants to get off to a losing start I think the chances we created were just fine.

If you and your students disagree I can live with that.

And don't diss the knowledge of my students. Many of the males watch just as much English and international football as people in England.

It is very popular here. They know as much as you or I and not one positive voice about the England team and many are cheering the English on.

It was a dull defensive performance and chances were few and far between. 4 shots is shocking. It is like a fighter throwing 200 punches in a fight, nobody likes to see that.

[Memphis]

So you're just going to ignore my post and throw your toys out of your pram because I dissed your students? How paternal of you

Actually you did acknowledge it because you've now conceded that we created more than just the goal

You should have saved this salvo for after the Sweden game, if we're (in yours and your students eyes) negative in that game then moan it up!

[Gandalf]

I didn't ignore your post, you made some valid points. But likewise, the counter argument is equally valid. Reading the media they seem to be jumping between the way we are both looking at it. We will have to see how it pans out.

Regardless, I hope I am wrong about our toothless football, but it isn't a team that I can see creating a lot of chances. Defensively we are sound, but we are weak in midfield and just cannot create.

Still, we are all cheering them on.

[Beanz]

I didn't ignore your post, you made some valid points. But likewise, the counter argument is equally valid. Reading the media they seem to be jumping between the way we are both looking at it. We will have to see how it pans out.

Regardless, I hope I am wrong about our toothless football, but it isn't a team that I can see creating a lot of chances. Defensively we are sound, but we are weak in midfield and just cannot create.

Still, we are all cheering them on.

You are a moaning cunt who knows fuck all about supporting anyone. We could win the world cup and you would still whinge.You have completely missed the point of this team in which many young players are accruing valuable experience to stand them in good stead for the future. When Rooney has a chance to play our attacking play will no doubt improve, all though you probably don't rate him either with you and your clueless students vast knowledge of football. Participating in life and taking joy from doing so is the point of life something that seems to pass you by. Blind Patriotism? What are you talking about? People are being realistic not saying this is the best team since 66, but no, you are never happy unless you are pissing on someone's parade.

[Mark TKO]

we are playing to ur strengths - unfortunately we don't have any

But look at this statistic. We had two shots on goal on Monday and scored one.

Imagine what will happen when have eight shots !!!

[Memphis]

Yeah you just wait til Wayne comes back to save us! Or get sent off in a quarter final we are winning

[Mark TKO]

if he got sent off again I wouldnt have him in England team ever again.


Surely even he's not that stupid......surely......

[Mattyhitman]

Yeah you just wait til Wayne comes back to save us! Or get sent off in a quarter final we are winning

I do fear this will happen in the Ukraine game. He will be so eager to please, he will be like a bull in a china shop. End up doing something stupid and getting sent off

[Gandalf]

I didn't ignore your post, you made some valid points. But likewise, the counter argument is equally valid. Reading the media they seem to be jumping between the way we are both looking at it. We will have to see how it pans out.

Regardless, I hope I am wrong about our toothless football, but it isn't a team that I can see creating a lot of chances. Defensively we are sound, but we are weak in midfield and just cannot create.

Still, we are all cheering them on.

You are a moaning cunt who knows fuck all about supporting anyone. We could win the world cup and you would still whinge.You have completely missed the point of this team in which many young players are accruing valuable experience to stand them in good stead for the future. When Rooney has a chance to play our attacking play will no doubt improve, all though you probably don't rate him either with you and your clueless students vast knowledge of football. Participating in life and taking joy from doing so is the point of life something that seems to pass you by. Blind Patriotism? What are you talking about? People are being realistic not saying this is the best team since 66, but no, you are never happy unless you are pissing on someone's parade.

Typical Greenbeanz post, insulting and dismissive and himself sometimes blinded by patriotism. I support the team like anyone, but I will also call it rubbish when I see it. I will not blind myself to the glaring and obvious faults.

I don't think Wayne Rooney is the answer either as I don't think he is a consistent player. It's just a case of hoping for the best in this tournament.

[Memphis]

Miles you're a hypocrite

You're accusing Beanz of being dismissive yet you've written off England after one game, the opening game against a very good team that lots of people fancied.

No one here is being blinded by patriotism. No one here fancied England pre tournament and nothing has changed following the France game.

Most sensible people are happy that we picked up a point and looked organised and difficult to beat in the process. lets see what happens in the next two games before we start getting our knickers in a bunch eh?

[Gandalf]

Miles you're a hypocrite

You're accusing Beanz of being dismissive yet you've written off England after one game, the opening game against a very good team that lots of people fancied.

No one here is being blinded by patriotism. No one here fancied England pre tournament and nothing has changed following the France game.

Most sensible people are happy that we picked up a point and looked organised and difficult to beat in the process. lets see what happens in the next two games before we start getting our knickers in a bunch eh?

He's being rude to me using aggressive language. I am not doing it to him and so I don't think that's fair.

I think England looked poor, I don't think we will look spectacular. These are basic assessments to make. I hope we get through to the next round and I think we can. But that's as far as my expectations go.

Do I want us out early? No, obviously. I see no problem with being realistic that we are lacking in MF and upfront. Rooney isn't going to fix anything.

[Beanz]

Come on england

[Beanz]

@Gandalf stand up man

[Beanz]

Yey!!!!!!!! God save her Maj