Floyd @154 vs Oscar De Hoya @154

[TitoFan]

Jackasses who, without even having SEEN the fight, rail against those who actually SAW the fight, basing it purely on hate for the fighter on the losing end of the decision.

The same jackasses who bring up experience in amateur boxing scoring, only to get their asses handed to them in other threads regarding PRO boxing scoring.

[ross]

Yes, I got my ass handed to me.

Your the sissy knickers that ran off crying when I pointed out you started 6 threads in less than 2 days about 1 fight

Also, regarding scoring, amateur boxing was around using the queensbury rules about 15 years before pro boxing started using it, so pro boxing must have started using the same scoring system?

[TitoFan]

Yes, I got my ass handed to me.

Your the sissy knickers that ran off crying when I pointed out you started 6 threads in less than 2 days about 1 fight

Also, regarding scoring, amateur boxing was around using the queensbury rules about 15 years before pro boxing started using it, so pro boxing must have started using the same scoring system?

I watched the fight, and thus can start as many threads as I want (I already explained that 3 were direct responses to other issues... but you only read what you want to read). You, on the other hand, didn't watch the fight..... and incredibly are STILL bitching and moaning about those who thought it was a bad decision. Tell me... who's got more right to post?

[Master]

I think what the poster is trying to say is that a peak Oscar at the weight, which was possibly against Vargas, would have beaten Floyd who won a close split decision against an old faded Oscar.

[hardcore_crash]

I think what the poster is trying to say is that a peak Oscar at the weight, which was possibly against Vargas, would have beaten Floyd who won a close split decision against an old faded Oscar.

It's funny because though DLH may have been at his prime physically, that fight was a lot closer than it should have.
De La Hoya was stubborn on using Mayweather Sr's guard and defense.
He used it wrong and was much too squared and left huge openings for Vargas.
Part of the reason Oscar was so marked up and bloody was just because he was trying new techniques.
He could have won that fight MUCH, easier IMO.

I watched that fight again last week, it's one of my favorites.

[imp]

Floyd beat oscar 9-3 at least.
At his weight
With his gloves
His size boxing ring
And whatever price split.

Floyd will always be a welterweight or lower. He is not as effective above 150>

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Floyd beat oscar 9-3 at least.
At his weight
With his gloves
His size boxing ring
And whatever price split.

Floyd will always be a welterweight or lower. He is not as effective above 150>

Yeah some people are not aware of that. floyd literally dave oscar everything... it was like a transaction... the passing of a torch.... or cash cow or whatever.

[imp]

Oscar was much bigger than floyd and more powerful. Half a stone makes such a difference.
Floyd is at a big disadvantage fighting at these weights but thats the risk you have to take sometimes.
Fighting martinez at 154 will be a cracking fight and floyd will have to rely on his defence and accuracy to win the decision.

[AdamGB]

What about Floyd vs De La Hoya at 145lbs?!

[DavilaJones]

It would be a disservice to Floyd to say Oscar was an old man in that fight. He wasn't old or washes up although I concede that he was not the fresh. He lost because he wailed away too many punches spending his energy too early and he stopped using the one tool that made him win the rounds that he did...his jab.

[Master]

It would be a disservice to Floyd to say Oscar was an old man in that fight. He wasn't old or washes up although I concede that he was not the fresh. He lost because he wailed away too many punches spending his energy too early and he stopped using the one tool that made him win the rounds that he did...his jab.

Most of us are saying that this is not Floyd s best weight so is a complement to his skills that he beat Oscar at a weight he is not natural at.

[chris6878]

I think what the poster is trying to say is that a peak Oscar at the weight, which was possibly against Vargas, would have beaten Floyd who won a close split decision against an old faded Oscar.

I think a peak Oscar mashes Floyd. Old man Oscar was jabbing the shot out of Floyd before he crapped out. Peak Oscar keeps the jab goin and goes in for the kill.

[ElTerribleMorales]

people keep complaining about the decision (I had Pacquiao winning), and then complaining about people comparing it to the Marquez decision, thing is (and yes this is directed right at the Pacquiao "fans") when it was Marquez who got fucked over all they would say is that "well two of the three judges had Pacquiao as the winner " even though anyone with half a brain could see that he was clearly beaten, same cane be said in this fight but directed at Bradley, but just cause the role has been switched there is a bigger fit than normal, sorry Pacquiao did get fucked over, royally, but this talk of the decision being overturned is ridiculous, he's not the first guy to have this happen to him, if they do overturn the decision they should do the same for Marquez against Pacquiao for their last two fights, Foreman against Briggs, Lewis/Holyfield I, Whitaker/Chavez Whitaker/Ramirez, etc. guarantee you that if it was Mayweather who had gotten fucked over by the judges against Cotto there wouldn't be half the drama

just sayin