Floyd @154 vs Oscar De Hoya @154

[hardcore_crash]

I think what the poster is trying to say is that a peak Oscar at the weight, which was possibly against Vargas, would have beaten Floyd who won a close split decision against an old faded Oscar.

It's funny because though DLH may have been at his prime physically, that fight was a lot closer than it should have.
De La Hoya was stubborn on using Mayweather Sr's guard and defense.
He used it wrong and was much too squared and left huge openings for Vargas.
Part of the reason Oscar was so marked up and bloody was just because he was trying new techniques.
He could have won that fight MUCH, easier IMO.

I watched that fight again last week, it's one of my favorites.

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These are the kind of "boxing fans" Pacquiao has produced

Loooool

[imp]

Floyd beat oscar 9-3 at least.
At his weight
With his gloves
His size boxing ring
And whatever price split.

Floyd will always be a welterweight or lower. He is not as effective above 150>

[hardcore_crash]

These are the kind of "boxing fans" Pacquiao has produced

Not that I want to defend Pacquaio fans, but his join date is 06.
Given Pacquiao didn't fight DLH until Dec 08, I think it's safe to say he doesn't fall in to that category of Pacquaio fans.

Lol

[Master]

That is my biggest problem with Oscar and makes me scratch my head about how great he truly was. He was very mechanical and fought accordingly to his current trainer. Whereas talented fighters would make slight adjustments, Oscar looked almost hindered and uncomfortable if he had to fight a different way than what was natural for him.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Floyd beat oscar 9-3 at least.
At his weight
With his gloves
His size boxing ring
And whatever price split.

Floyd will always be a welterweight or lower. He is not as effective above 150>

Yeah some people are not aware of that. floyd literally dave oscar everything... it was like a transaction... the passing of a torch.... or cash cow or whatever.

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Oscar was much bigger than floyd and more powerful. Half a stone makes such a difference.
Floyd is at a big disadvantage fighting at these weights but thats the risk you have to take sometimes.
Fighting martinez at 154 will be a cracking fight and floyd will have to rely on his defence and accuracy to win the decision.

[AdamGB]

What about Floyd vs De La Hoya at 145lbs?!

[chris6878]

I think what the poster is trying to say is that a peak Oscar at the weight, which was possibly against Vargas, would have beaten Floyd who won a close split decision against an old faded Oscar.

I think a peak Oscar mashes Floyd. Old man Oscar was jabbing the shot out of Floyd before he crapped out. Peak Oscar keeps the jab goin and goes in for the kill.

[DavilaJones]

It would be a disservice to Floyd to say Oscar was an old man in that fight. He wasn't old or washes up although I concede that he was not the fresh. He lost because he wailed away too many punches spending his energy too early and he stopped using the one tool that made him win the rounds that he did...his jab.

[Master]

It would be a disservice to Floyd to say Oscar was an old man in that fight. He wasn't old or washes up although I concede that he was not the fresh. He lost because he wailed away too many punches spending his energy too early and he stopped using the one tool that made him win the rounds that he did...his jab.

Most of us are saying that this is not Floyd s best weight so is a complement to his skills that he beat Oscar at a weight he is not natural at.

[TitoFan]

It would be a disservice to Floyd to say Oscar was an old man in that fight. He wasn't old or washes up although I concede that he was not the fresh. He lost because he wailed away too many punches spending his energy too early and he stopped using the one tool that made him win the rounds that he did...his jab.

Most of us are saying that this is not Floyd s best weight so is a complement to his skills that he beat Oscar at a weight he is not natural at.

This.

[DavilaJones]

I was skimming through thoe posts on my phone, haste makes waste and I made a big boobo. Ignore my earlier comment gents.

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What about a 2002 154 lb DLH vs 2012 154 lb Mayweather?

I think that is the best question, not sure if that is what Sleepwalker meant.

[Master]

What about a 2002 154 lb DLH vs 2012 154 lb Mayweather?

I think that is the best question, not sure if that is what Sleepwalker meant.

He did and I say Oscar wins.