Julio Jr. vs. Andy Lee Saturday night fight/chat thread

[p4pking]

That's weird, all three judges had Lee ahead at the stoppage? Certainly a fix wasn't in the works for this one, not that it was ever going to matter. I was watching it at the same time as Chambers Adamek but it did seem Lee was getting beat up for the most part after the first 2..

[Mars_ax]

That's weird, all three judges had Lee ahead at the stoppage? Certainly a fix wasn't in the works for this one, not that it was ever going to matter. I was watching it at the same time as Chambers Adamek but it did seem Lee was getting beat up for the most part after the first 2..

Chavez was throwing really hard shots to Lee's head and body that started taking it's toll. Even though Lee gave a good account of himself in the 5th and 6th rounds, he had the look of a beaten fighter. The ref did the right thing stopping the fight in the 7th, Lee was on his way to being knocked out.

[p4pking]

That's weird, all three judges had Lee ahead at the stoppage? Certainly a fix wasn't in the works for this one, not that it was ever going to matter. I was watching it at the same time as Chambers Adamek but it did seem Lee was getting beat up for the most part after the first 2..

Chavez was throwing really hard shots to Lee's head and body that started taking it's toll. Even though Lee gave a good account of himself in the 5th and 6th rounds, he had the look of a beaten fighter. The ref did the right thing stopping the fight in the 7th, Lee was on his way to being knocked out.

Yeah for sure, Chavez was so much stronger and way more durable, it was inevitable. I'm just surpsised that the judges gave Lee so much love on the scorecards, given that he was falling apart like that. Two judges had Lee winning the 5th and 6th rounds, kind of nuts imo.

[Master]

Just saw the end, where was the ref? That was brutal and he was defenseless.

[Mars_ax]

Just saw the end, where was the ref? That was brutal and he was defenseless.

Cole jumped in and waved it off at the right time Master, any sooner and they would have said it was premature.

[armin]

I wouldn't mind chavez it just seems tho that he's being let to get away with some shit with the whole botched drug testin a few months back, and not producin a sample yesterday, just seems shady....he's gona have a chance against sergio since hell outweigh him by 20lbs

[hardcore_crash]

Chavez looked really good in there last night.
He surprised me on how easy he was taking Lee's shots, as well as landing his own vicious body punching to follow up up-stairs.

As far as the Martinez/Chavez fight I still give the edge to Martinez.
Chavez will impose his size and strength, and Martinez will get roughed up and bullied for sure. But, last night Lee landed two of his best shots in a straight left and a right hook up top. Those are coincidentally Martinez's two best punches, not too mention the jab Lee kept landing. As much as Martinez will get in close to land his shots, I don't believe he will trade punches with Chavez. IMO, he will circle and land his overhand left/straight with right hook over the top ( similar to what Pacquiao does) and box Chavez's ear off if not stopping him from Julio taking too much flush shots. I would be really surprised if Chavez was stopped though.

[Mars_ax]

I wouldn't mind chavez it just seems tho that he's being let to get away with some shit with the whole botched drug testin a few months back, and not producin a sample yesterday, just seems shady....he's gona have a chance against sergio since hell outweigh him by 20lbs

I don't get why the Texas Boxing Commission doesn't do testing, I thought that was mandatory everywhere. Jr. may not be using PEDs, but I believe he needs to be tested and get that cleared up, something stinks to high heaven.

[Rantcatrat]

Junior has developed into a good middleweight over the past two years. He has wins over Zbik, Lee and Rubio, pretty quality opposition. Ask yourself which middleweights you would favor over him right now. Pirog, Golovkin, Sturm maybe, Geale maybe, Quillin maybe.

His fight with Martinez will be a good fight. It's not game-set-match for Martinez, like it appeared to be a while ago. He's so much bigger than Martinez and he'll hit Martinez with the strongest punches Martinez will have been hit with, maybe ever. Lefkowitz already said that he planned on requesting a 20/20 ring and that the fight will be in Nevada where they test for drugs. I had no idea drug testing wasn't required in Texas. Is that really the case? Also, what is with the rumor about same-day weighing in that I heard the WBC is implementing from now on. That might make it impossible for Junior to fight for a WBC belt at 160, if he couldn't even provide a urine sample because he was so dehydrated.

[El Kabong]

Quillen is a stablemate of Junior's though as they are both trained by Freddy Roach. I think at this point Quillen is too raw to fight JC Jr., but eventually he could compete. I don't think Quillen has had his chin tested yet either

[IamInuit]

Junior has developed into a good middleweight over the past two years. He has wins over Zbik, Lee and Rubio, pretty quality opposition. Ask yourself which middleweights you would favor over him right now. Pirog, Golovkin, Sturm maybe, Geale maybe, Quillin maybe.

His fight with Martinez will be a good fight. It's not game-set-match for Martinez, like it appeared to be a while ago. He's so much bigger than Martinez and he'll hit Martinez with the strongest punches Martinez will have been hit with, maybe ever. Lefkowitz already said that he planned on requesting a 20/20 ring and that the fight will be in Nevada where they test for drugs. I had no idea drug testing wasn't required in Texas. Is that really the case? Also, what is with the rumor about same-day weighing in that I heard the WBC is implementing from now on. That might make it impossible for Junior to fight for a WBC belt at 160, if he couldn't even provide a urine sample because he was so dehydrated.

Huh a good middleweight?? He's a freakin light-heavyweight and unless the Chavez family friend Jose backs off on implementing same day weigh ins as of June 30th, he will never fight at middle again. Oh I know they already have Martinez listed at boxrec and all kinds of people are claiming its done out of both camps but I'll wait for the bell.

[Rantcatrat]

Junior has developed into a good middleweight over the past two years. He has wins over Zbik, Lee and Rubio, pretty quality opposition. Ask yourself which middleweights you would favor over him right now. Pirog, Golovkin, Sturm maybe, Geale maybe, Quillin maybe.

His fight with Martinez will be a good fight. It's not game-set-match for Martinez, like it appeared to be a while ago. He's so much bigger than Martinez and he'll hit Martinez with the strongest punches Martinez will have been hit with, maybe ever. Lefkowitz already said that he planned on requesting a 20/20 ring and that the fight will be in Nevada where they test for drugs. I had no idea drug testing wasn't required in Texas. Is that really the case? Also, what is with the rumor about same-day weighing in that I heard the WBC is implementing from now on. That might make it impossible for Junior to fight for a WBC belt at 160, if he couldn't even provide a urine sample because he was so dehydrated.

Huh a good middleweight?? He's a freakin light-heavyweight and unless the Chavez family friend Jose backs off on implementing same day weigh ins as of June 30th, he will never fight at middle again. Oh I know they already have Martinez listed at boxrec and all kinds of people are claiming its done out of both camps but I'll wait for the bell.

Since he has fought only in Texas since failing a drug test in Nevada, it is suspect whether he can really make the middleweight limit safely. As long as he can make the weight legally and safely, he's a middleweight though.