Shadowboxing with eyes closed

[Scrap]

Im really very old School, and learned to understand the Senses, on the way. If the coach is not creative, the Fighter wont be.

[Gray Lion]

Im really very old School, and learned to understand the Senses, on the way. If the coach is not creative, the Fighter wont be.

Got no argument with you there scrap....and like I say I have no argument if its good or bad because its new to me. My question is that ok., you increase speed by shutting off the eye focus..but in a match..with the eyes open, will this not cancel out the speed you have learned and even make it more difficult----just an academic question. I believe in keeping an open mind on anything new tried..so I'm not offering an opinion. I trained back in the 50's and my first old trainer was a former bare knuckles fighter who did not believe in head gear...his reason was that you would accept a lot of head blows with head gear on and if you did not wear it...you would be more prone to slip and avoid being hit...sounded crazy..but the logic made sense.

[Scrap]

Not a problem Gray, thats what these places are for opinions . It does work, plus the crossover is of Benefit to the Athletes Balance mechanism and movement, by the Body understanding itself in motion better.

[cnote111]

Not a problem Gray, thats what these places are for opinions . It does work, plus the crossover is of Benefit to the Athletes Balance mechanism and movement, by the Body understanding itself in motion better.

I currently have 4 of my fighters doing "Blind Shadow" for 15 mins every day - Do you feel that is an appropriate amount of time each session?

So far all 4 of them like it. I also have them using a balance board in between workouts, but they can't shut there eyes on a balance board for more then 5-10 secs before they fall off. That really proved to me how much your eyes play in balance.

Do you have any other thoughts i might be missing?

[Scrap]

I currently have 4 of my fighters doing "Blind Shadow" for 15 mins every day - Do you feel that is an appropriate amount of time each session?

So far all 4 of them like it. I also have them using a balance board in between workouts, but they can't shut there eyes on a balance board for more then 5-10 secs before they fall off. That really proved to me how much your eyes play in balance.

Do you have any other thoughts i might be missing?[/QUOTE]
Eyes are the Problem with Balance, they are the main reason, for the imbalance in the muscular response. You have a Dominant Eye, while the other Eye is for Depth and Distance, the Dominant one is for movement the Peripheral eye, the preferred eye I call it. its the side we prefer to use, the Dominant side. Making each side of the body a little different in its mobility and flexibility. Theres a few ways of finding this out. Heres one Standing up on your prefered leg shut the same eye, feel the difference when you do it with the opposite eye, try it

[greynotsoold]

I just tried the exercise you just mentioned...Now, I'm right handed all the way, the only thing I can do with my left hand is punch. But when I stand on my right leg, closing either eye, I wobble all over the place. If I stand on my left leg, with my right eye open, I am real solid. Slightly less so standing on my left leg with the left eye open. What is happening there?
For what it is worth, I shoot equally well with either hand, but, when I shoot right handed, with a pistol, I arrange myself so my left eye does most of the seeing.

[Scrap]

I just tried the exercise you just mentioned...Now, I'm right handed all the way, the only thing I can do with my left hand is punch. But when I stand on my right leg, closing either eye, I wobble all over the place. If I stand on my left leg, with my right eye open, I am real solid. Slightly less so standing on my left leg with the left eye open. What is happening there?
For what it is worth, I shoot equally well with either hand, but, when I shoot right handed, with a pistol, I arrange myself so my left eye does most of the seeing.

Greys before that try this, Put tissue in the opposite ear while doing it

[Gray Lion]

I would like to hear more for others who may have tried this in training. I have been bending the ears of the head coach and other coach at our gym on what I have been reading in this forum and they just blow it off as a fad. I'm always open for new training techniques. I am thinking about taking three of my students and giving it a try but would appreciate some more feed back on how this is going.

[Andre]

This idea is totally separate to sparring with eyes closed.

But I think its an amazing thing to do if you are in contact and are fighting with arm contact.

If I was training Mma, wrestlers or Judo they would doing routines like this, so they could build up feeling in their limbs to read intuitively the opponents balance and when there is an opening or a break to strike through.

Also for practice flowing with the opponents force then bursting free and attacking them in the opening they automatically leave.

This would have to be built up in a few set stages, the first ones being basic set patterns, as to build on the contact reflexes before allowing them to go free style with blindfolds on starting in contact over a few varying distances one armed and also in close with both forearms touching.

Having forearm contact in boxing isnt impossible and frequently occurs in close situations on one side or another; or sometimes both sides when each of the fighters are very tired and things slow down into the odd grapple and hug; so its not out of the question to be trained in it, so that you have some working answers for some untrained for situations that arise.