A Tale of Two Sons of Great Fighters

[hardcore_crash]

Yes, at this point he has faced better competition.
But I believe, I could be wrong though, that at the end of the day Chavez will have the better career. Not because of Chavez Sr is his dad or Sulaiman is "The Godfather", but because he took the time to learn how to fight , get in proper shape, and fill in to his body before facing top p4p fighters.
Not everyone is Canelo and can fight all these top guys at such a young age.
If Vazquez Jr., who is his adivser, wants to throw him in to the wolves before he was ready that's fine.
Vargas already got his ass beat by Trinidad before he was ready, and where is he now?
He faced top guys but lost to much of them.
In a few years Chavez Jr might still be fighting top guys and Vazquez Jr. Is going to be the kid who got thrown in to the wolves by his advisor.

And no Chavez wouldn't have been able to hang with someone like Martinez when he had 20 fights, but who would honestly expect him to? As soon as he became the 160 WBC champ is when it matters who and when he fights them.

[TitoFan]

Yes, at this point he has faced better competition.
But I believe, I could be wrong though, that at the end of the day Chavez will have the better career. Not because of Chavez Sr is his dad or Sulaiman is "The Godfather", but because he took the time to learn how to fight , get in proper shape, and fill in to his body before facing top p4p fighters.
Not everyone is Canelo and can fight all these top guys at such a young age.
If Vazquez Jr., who is his adivser, wants to throw him in to the wolves before he was ready that's fine.
Vargas already got his ass beat by Trinidad before he was ready, and where is he now?
He faced top guys but lost to much of them.
In a few years Chavez Jr might still be fighting top guys and Vazquez Jr. Is going to be the kid who got thrown in to the wolves by his advisor.

And no Chavez wouldn't have been able to hang with someone like Martinez when he had 20 fights, but who would honestly expect him to? As soon as he became the 160 WBC champ is when it matters who and when he fights them.

You're right about how Chavez is being brought along. But that's precisely the reason as to my skepticism about his record. Think about it. Chavez has 40+ fights as a pro. In the end, his record will be compared to other fighters who had 40+ fights without a loss (if Jr. continues undefeated). But what will the comparison show? That because Junior didn't have an amateur career.... he was fed pulseless victims for the greater part of those 40+ fights. How then, can you compare his record to those who have HAD an amateur career.... and who have had credible opponents since early in their pro careers?

Answer: you can't compare them.