*VIDEO* Smuggled Cuban Boxing Secrets!

[Marcos Avellan]

Sounds good Andre!

[ross]

I take it Marcos that you havent trained or visisted many pure boxing gyms? The problem you are talking about sounds more like a womens boxercise gym where its for excercise rather than a boxer training with an imaginary sparring partner?

[Marcos Avellan]

I take it Marcos that you havent trained or visisted many pure boxing gyms? The problem you are talking about sounds more like a womens boxercise gym where its for excercise rather than a boxer training with an imaginary sparring partner?

Hey Ross, I want to reply to your comment but I don't understand it... which "problem" are you referring to? I talk about quite a few issues throughout the videos.

I trained for four years out of Young Tigers out of Miami, Florida with Eric "El Tigre" Castanos who was coach to Jermain Taylor (while he was world champ). Shadow boxing was considered an important part of our training, as it was when I visited Cuba.

I'm probably misunderstanding your comment though, if possible, please elaborate, but right now I'm making the assumption that you are trying to communicate that in-depth shadow boxing and visualization is for women's boxercise programs and not for real "pure" boxing gyms?

If that is what you are trying to say, then we'll have to agree to disagree. I think shadow boxing is the most underrated and abused form of training in the boxing and kickboxing community amongst the average joes (I personally believe that world champs and world class coaches understand its value and practice it differently than the average guy in the gym) - and in my opinion, I think shadow boxing the BEST form of training when done correctly.

Thanks for the post though and feel free to clarify what you were trying to say.

[ross]

No, im saying that throwing repetative identical punches, is like a womens boxercise class. Shadow boxing as if fighting an opponent and moving about os just something real boxers actually already do. In fact the gum I went to only had about 12 bags a ring and a weights room, so once someone was on the pads or sparring in the ring and all the oer bags were taken, we would circulate around the bags and through pad work, so inevitably at least one or two rounds would be shadow boxing in front of a mirror, as there just wasnt enough room anyway to hang more bags.

If there was enough bags, would I have still shadow boxed? Probably not. You can do the same work on a bag, all be it that you cant see how open you are.

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If you want to know, while Shadowboxing where the Holes are, in your defence, Shut your Eyes .

[WayneFlint]

Seems like a lot of noise for some boxing fundamentals, sorry just being honest, maybe this thread would be better off in an mma section, to introduce mma tists to boxing.,

not the first time ive seen mma practitioners be blown away by the subtelty's of boxing, not surprising tho 2 weapons vs 8 boxers are naturally going to have to learn how to fight more deceptivley and creatively, however this is just the basics, i cant see there being any gym secrets here, if you think some of this stuff is deep you should look over these forums and watch some of the greats, this is just the basics really, i think mma as a starter martial art hinders development of these types of skills and cunning, using your boxing brain, fighting in styles with less weapons often means more thinking is involved toland on a fighter. I think a lot off mma fighters would benefit in developing tgeir skills and boxing brain with 2 weapons before they are spoilt for choice with 8.

Welcome to the subtle world of boxing this .is why i love the sport