Wlad to fight again in Novermber or December

[El Kabong]

Can I ask one question Lyle my old mate? I'm not disagreeiing with anything you're saying BUT, do you think Haye will lose to Chisora? I genuinely want to know!

As a fellow fan of the HW's, I do value your opinion on this matter. I'm expecting an early KO from Haye with him moving, making Chisora miss clumsily and then making him pay. If not very early (1st or 2nd) then latest 8th or 9th!

I know you hate Haye and I 100% understand why but I also hope you can look past that and give an honest opinion on the matter.

Certainly, I will be glad to answer this question in detail. In my UNBIASED opinion Haye has the athletic ability and 1 punch power to make life difficult for anyone. Dereck Chisora is a hard nut to crack (pun intended). Chisora seems to have mental issues, whether he's autistic as his trainer says, or mildly retarded, or bipolar or whatever the case is Chisora is just a little "off". All that being said I think based on recent fights and IF Chisora shows up in shape, then Chisora is liable to win a decision due to his effort and higher output of punches as David Haye fights a negative fight throwing under 20 punches a round. I figure if Helenius & Vitali can't hurt Chisora then David Haye will have a hard time as well. Haye does has a different kind of power, a quicker, less heavy kind of power that would be more along the lines of a Ferrari than a Mack Truck (to use a Teddy Atlas analogy) and maybe Chisora doesn't take that as good as the more deliberate shots. If David Haye is to win and look good doing it he needs to pump the jab, make Chisora work his way in, make Chisora pay for real estate, circle out and repeat. Haye will need to tire Chisora out and lure him in to a check hook or an uppercut (or both) in order to hurt and perhaps stop Dereck. To win the fight Chisora just needs to get into Haye's chest, make Haye run, do work to the body to slow him down, and muscle up on him to make things uncomfortable in there because David Haye will look for a way out when put under constant pressure.

I see this going the distance and Haye getting a very close controversial decision, perhaps having survived a knockdown or two.


I wonder if there are any longshots to challenge Wlad, Liakhovich, Maskaev, Valuev, Golota, Ruiz? Anyone Willing and able to come out of retirement to fight him and allow the youngsters to get prepared.

[Master]

At this rate it will be Haye v Wlad 2 because no one is ready.

[rjj tszyu]

Can I ask one question Lyle my old mate? I'm not disagreeiing with anything you're saying BUT, do you think Haye will lose to Chisora? I genuinely want to know!

As a fellow fan of the HW's, I do value your opinion on this matter. I'm expecting an early KO from Haye with him moving, making Chisora miss clumsily and then making him pay. If not very early (1st or 2nd) then latest 8th or 9th!

I know you hate Haye and I 100% understand why but I also hope you can look past that and give an honest opinion on the matter.

Certainly, I will be glad to answer this question in detail. In my UNBIASED opinion Haye has the athletic ability and 1 punch power to make life difficult for anyone. Dereck Chisora is a hard nut to crack (pun intended). Chisora seems to have mental issues, whether he's autistic as his trainer says, or mildly retarded, or bipolar or whatever the case is Chisora is just a little "off". All that being said I think based on recent fights and IF Chisora shows up in shape, then Chisora is liable to win a decision due to his effort and higher output of punches as David Haye fights a negative fight throwing under 20 punches a round. I figure if Helenius & Vitali can't hurt Chisora then David Haye will have a hard time as well. Haye does has a different kind of power, a quicker, less heavy kind of power that would be more along the lines of a Ferrari than a Mack Truck (to use a Teddy Atlas analogy) and maybe Chisora doesn't take that as good as the more deliberate shots. If David Haye is to win and look good doing it he needs to pump the jab, make Chisora work his way in, make Chisora pay for real estate, circle out and repeat. Haye will need to tire Chisora out and lure him in to a check hook or an uppercut (or both) in order to hurt and perhaps stop Dereck. To win the fight Chisora just needs to get into Haye's chest, make Haye run, do work to the body to slow him down, and muscle up on him to make things uncomfortable in there because David Haye will look for a way out when put under constant pressure.

I see this going the distance and Haye getting a very close controversial decision, perhaps having survived a knockdown or two.


I wonder if there are any longshots to challenge Wlad, Liakhovich, Maskaev, Valuev, Golota, Ruiz? Anyone Willing and able to come out of retirement to fight him and allow the youngsters to get prepared.

I do think people are reading too much into the Vitali fight. He was clearly injured and had he not been I think Chisora would have been stopped in the middle rounds. Add to that the fact he is 40 and to be fair has never been the most mobile and Chisora is made to look better than he actually is. As for Helenius, I never really rated the guy anyway to be honest though I did expect him to beat Chisora (by that I mean without the controversy). Also Haye has at the very least quite badly hurt every guy he has ever fought barring Wlad and I don't see much changing this weekend, Chisora IMO will fold when he does get hurt.

As for the guys you mention I've always been intrigued by a Wlad vs Valuev fight. I don't for a second think Wlad loses to Valuev (for me it has to be an explosive puncher to beat Wlad or someone with an insane workrate and chin like Evander was), but it's a new set of problems for Wlad to deal with and I think it could make for a semi decent fight as I'm not sure Wlad would be as keen to hold Valuev as he is the smaller guys! Also I'd love to see the big man down properly, I thought Haye was about to put him down in the last round but he just failed. I'm sure someone who isn't particuarly hard to hit like Valuev would be down at some point against Wlad. Also it would be marketable due to his size!